S7 E31: Desperately Seeking Martin Perez | FromThe108
August 7, 2025
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Welcome to the From the 108 podcast starring the drunk uncles of White Socks Twitter. He’s a Twitter like [ __ ] an 0:48 Instagram thirst trap, and your grandma’s guilty pleasure. Blo 0:54 a West Coast attitude in a decidedly Midwest body. My sock Summer 1:00 and your host. He’s sharing obscure music thoughts to give you time to hit the bathroom. Theresy E. 1:21 Thank you, Cory. And welcome to the From the 108 podcast. Get ready for some baseball, beer, and [ __ ] And 1:26 remember the drinking rules. If Bloof says allegedly or that he manifested that, you drink. If my sock Summer shows 1:32 up on screen or you hear his voice, you drink. And if I talk music or Star Wars, 1:38 you drink. And of course, you can make all of us drink for a tip of A$108 or 1:43 more. A lot more, please. A lot more tonight. Let’s go. But Beef, speaking of drinking, what are you drinking? And are 1:51 you on the quest? Theresy, I am not on the quest, but I am in fact double fisting out here. 1:57 Leftover handles of Titos. I realized there was a a handle that came back with us that was probably half full at the 2:03 time from Cottage. And I’ve been drinking that one. And then I looked in my liquor cabinet. I got another one that’s like a third of the way. So, I’m 2:09 going to let them for good luck. I’m going to let them both be on stage on tap right here right next to me. I got I 2:15 cut up some lime. So, I got absolute ton of limes. I like to when I’m doing my vodka sodas, I like to get a little lime 2:20 action. You know, I just avoid scurvy if possible. So, I’m really teed up for a big show. I got a lot of ice, 2:26 everything. I’m ready to [ __ ] go. But no, I’m not on the quest because we’re down to that last one that we haven’t 2:31 find. We’re down to the Portic. We can’t find it. And I’m a man I’m a proud man, but 2:38 I’m willing to admit defeat. And this this has defeated us. This has defeated 2:43 us. So, here’s what we’re going to do. Here’s what we’re going to do. I cannot find the jug of fortisimo, 2:50 but I found the magnum of fortisimo. 2:59 The magnum and we’re going to drink this. This is going to count. However, 3:04 however, we’re taking a penalty. This is a 10% penalty. We got to add 3:10 five five new drinks to the list. I like it. So it becomes a list of 55. 3:17 And my beautiful commenters, we need help picking. We need help 3:22 picking and we we need to know from you. Yes, sir. What should get added to the list? Give 3:27 me got to get We got to get five. We might not pick all five tonight, but we’re going to pick some. And I got I 3:33 got to tell you, if you were to make it a super chat, there’s much better chance of you getting it. 3:39 I mean, you’ll almost be a lock. You make it a super chat and we haven’t done it already. We we have if we’ve already done it. If you pick something we 3:45 already did, it’s not going to work. You won’t be able and also it has to be something that exists still. 3:50 Yeah. That we could actually find. Come on now. You know, you got to do us right here. So, because that’s that’s the problem. 3:55 Mailman Jack gave us the the forimo. You think he did that on purpose? Do you think mailman Jack? Because I’ve been 4:01 giving him a little bit of [ __ ] You know, we’re we’re both men of a certain age. I’ve been giving a little [ __ ] He was doing a lot of old man selfies and 4:07 stuff and I was giving him a hard time a little bit. He knows I love him. It’s not it’s not nothing, you know. How do you think getting us back for that [ __ ] 4:14 No, you know what it is? You know what it is? I was just talking uh with somebody the other day. We were talking 4:20 about I think it was our guy Matt Ramsey. We were talking about Red Dog. Like Red Dog still has to exist, right? 4:25 It’s discontinued like 15 years ago. So, I think it’s just, you know, time flies 4:31 when you’re having fun. Got it in your head. You got the image in your head. It doesn’t exist anymore. 4:36 I recently had that. I don’t think he did. I don’t think he did. Why not? Sing socks says, “Uh, where’s 4:42 the Puerto Rican?” Well, my socks my socks summer is on holiday. I don’t want to say he’s at cottage. I wouldn’t wouldn’t want to say that, but he’s away 4:48 with his family having a nice little vacation. He’ll be back allegedly Saturday for an event that we got going 4:54 on. Trees. We got a little event Saturday. Yeah, I was going to talk about it right now. So, yeah. So, this Saturday, LP 5:02 in the Grassy Null. Yes. There’s going to be a stage set up there. There’s going to be all kinds of stuff going on. circus performers, 5:08 skydivers, all kinds of [ __ ] stuff we’re not involved in, but this is something we are involved in. But also, White Sox Dave has invited us 5:15 to to join him for his live show that he’s doing. So, it’s going to be White Sox Dave and the 108ers. And it sounds 5:22 like multiple special guests. So, we can’t say who these special guest 5:28 multiple special guests. It’ be interesting to talk to them, especially one about 5:34 Bill Ve stuff. Yes. Right. And so, so there’s there’s uh I’m excited for this, but 5:40 what I need you guys to do is come out in full force. Come out in full force to this thing. Get out there 5:46 to help you out. I got two tickets, baby. I got two tickets in the 108. Hell yeah. 5:52 I’m giving them to one of our commenters tonight. Beautiful. I love it. I love it. Just uh, you know, have fun like normal, 6:00 but make a comment that’s going to make me really [ __ ] laugh. And you know, if I put it up on the screen and we’re 6:06 laughing about it, you follow it up and say, “Give me those [ __ ] socks tickets.” And uh and we’ll we’ll go from 6:13 there. We’ll see. We’ll see who gets them. We’ll see who gets them. Some good commenters in here. Uh car 6:19 Carol, good to see you in the comments tonight. Carol says, “Uh, tonight it’s Bailey’s in my McDonald’s iced coffee. My liquid sugar.” Bailey’s and coffee is 6:26 a standard for Trezy and I when we go to the horseshoe and hammer. Could you imagine doing that for a whole 6:31 show, though? I don’t know if I could. I don’t know if I could do it. Actually could coffee and baileies would be awesome for an entire show. 90minute 6:37 show though. We can’t we can’t go three hours with that. I will miss a half hour that show 6:44 says uh White Sox Dave such a diva now that he has bangs. Oh man, his hair’s coming in, man. It’s 6:49 crazy. It is crazy. It’s like the first Chia Pet you ever got. We met we met the Bald Stool uh some of 6:55 the Bald Stool crew uh at the game uh last time we were all there and then we went to courts with them. fun crew and 7:01 they had a lot to say and they love White Sox D. They’re big White Sox Dave fans. It was very cool. I like the dude that came up and they 7:07 were like, “Uh, yeah, check out his hair. You know, he’s got to go back for another one.” And and and we’re and 7:14 we’re talking to him and we’re like, “Yeah, so you know, how’d you get involved in this?” He’s like, “I was just there.” 7:20 Like he was like already in Turkey or something. Like it was just like a weirdest thing like like he was not part 7:26 of the crew originally and just somehow walked his way into there and then 7:31 and then it was weird that Dave is now like an expert on this and he’s like looking at this guy’s head 7:37 and he’s like I don’t know man this might be this might be three trips. 7:43 Well that’s what’s funny Dave now that he’s done it. He’s looking to recruit people all the time. He’s like let me 7:49 take take the hat off. We want to see how you look. Oh man. He was telling Burke, too. Yeah, get Joe turn. 7:56 Dave’s acting like he gets a commission off of that, man. I have no idea. 8:02 All right, let’s get this uh drink from uh Midwest Kid 1992 says, “Cheers, White Socks gang.” Cheers. 8:08 Cheers, Midwest Kid. Appreciate you. Oh, and just uh the thing about that 8:14 tailgate, too, it’s it’s Bob. Bring your own [ __ ] We’re going to be hanging out, partying together. We may have some 8:20 stuff, but we didn’t bring enough for the class. We ain’t got enough boos for the class. Bring your own [ __ ] Hang out on the lawn and hang out with us. And 8:26 we’re going to be right there near the home plate in the grassy. No, as Drezy mentioned, sweaty live show 8:32 for That’s right. Guests, us mingling sweat. 8:38 Beautiful. It’s going to be It’s going to be fun. I’m I’m excited for I I didn’t realize how much stuff they 8:44 were doing for Bill Night until we started talking with the with the socks about this. Yeah. 8:49 And then I saw that that commercial with the Savannah Bananas guy uh today and I’m like, “Oh, some of I thought they 8:57 were just messing around that some of this stuff was going to be there, especially the skydiving bit.” So, like, 9:02 right, we’re still unsure. They did We have heard 9:09 that Southpaw is going to skydive, but it’s unconfirmed. Like it’s like, well, 9:14 I don’t know if that’s actually going to happen, but you know, it it might happen. And it’s like, dude, if if 9:22 Southpaw skydives into the stadium, that’d be [ __ ] unreal. That’ll be electric, you know. And actually, we 9:28 think all we’re doing is going up there microphones and hanging out and we have a little stage. But we were asked to sign a release today, so who knows what 9:35 they’re going to put us through. They may do some [ __ ] to us we’re not even expecting right now. Dre, when when my heirs are mentioned in a 9:41 release, I’m worried about what they’re going to have us do. A little concerned. Just a little concerned. It’s But it’s okay. We’ll be 9:47 all right. The the language of that release was like, “What what is what is this? What 9:53 did I What did I sign up for? What did Dave get us into?” Yeah. Yeah, that’s right. Blame White 9:58 Sox, Dave, always. But no, it’s going to be a great time. Uh Trey says, “We need a 108 wives complaint segment again.” So, here’s the 10:06 funny thing, Beef. I haven’t told you this, so I’m going to spring this on you right now. Okay, do it. Let’s go. 10:12 We Me and Cory were away this weekend having some cocktails as we do. 10:18 Oh, shout out to Corzy for planning a great great trip. We’re having some cocktails. And she’s 10:24 like, you know, what are you guys going to do for the podcast next week? Not this week, but you know, this upcoming 10:29 week because me and you are going to be out of town. We’re going to be out of town. We will not be uh doing the podcast. Yeah. and 10:35 she’s like, “Should the ladies do the podcast next week?” And I said, “You 10:41 know, that that sounds like a good idea.” I think Trey uh thinks that it’d be a good idea. So, cheers to you, Trey. 10:46 I think I already drank it, but I’m going to drink another one for you, buddy. I always drink twice for Trey. Why not? Why wouldn’t I? Thank you, Trey. 10:51 Appreciate it. Why the hell not? Especially when you have wine this good. Um, 10:56 it’s it’s more meant to be a table wine, not for 11:02 you to be sipping on it all night. It’s a couple a couple swigs with your 11:07 rigone. Maybe it’s more of a cooking wine. But but if you guys are interested in that, 11:14 if you guys are interested in that, let’s let’s let let us know in the comments. Also, let us know what we need to start drinking for the next couple 11:20 There we go. We got it. Amber is not Yeah, she wants to hear [ __ ] against you. And uh Yep. We 11:26 got people people like the suggestion so far. Barry’s in on that. Carol’s in. 11:32 Great suggestion. All right. Yeah. All right. Okay. I think the action is People like it. So, we’ll see if we can 11:37 string that together. We’ll see if we get that going, you know? Then we can critique them doing the podcast. Exactly. 11:43 That’s what That’s what we’re really hoping to happen here. That’s what it’s all about. Actually, I was I was thinking it would be funny if is if they were with MSS and 11:51 then we we gave them like a really basebally topic and they ran circles around MSS. That’d be 11:56 Yeah. Well, they’d actually research it, so yeah, it probably Hello. He’s going to be mad when he 12:02 hears that. He’s gonna That’s the only thing That’s the only thing we’re going to get a text about. We could We could 12:07 later on in this episode go, “Man, what a great ad read by MSS. I hear he has the hugest [ __ ] in Chicago.” And it’ll 12:14 be like, “You guys were messing with me about my baseball stuff.” That’s that’s that’ll be what we all we hear about. 12:20 Well, when MSS has good baseball pints, I always give them a pat on the fanny and I bring them back around in the 12:26 future. I If you noticed that, Tree, I try to reuse them. Bring them back and he still gets mad. still gets upset. 12:33 Senior socks is in the He’s going, “The woke mob taking over my podcast. Not on my watch.” Dude, don’t don’t all don’t 12:39 all caps us thinking that we’re going to bow to you and be like, “Okay, the wives will show some cleavage for you, buddy.” 12:45 See, that’s what he’s looking for. Calm down there. Calm down. 12:50 [ __ ] game. Speaking of baseball and speaking of bad Oh, hold on. We don’t drink. Nathan 12:56 Ching is like, I love Nathan. You critiquing your wives on podcast? What could go wrong? Cheers, Nathan. 13:02 Thank you. Only about the podcast though, not about anything else. Cheers, Nathan. 13:07 Yeah, that’s certainly We’re not doing a whole critique show. That’s I want to live in my house, man. I like it here. 13:14 I got no complaints. So, I’d be silent the whole time. That’s why I got to do about the podcast. That’s all. See, but we You know me, Beef. I’ll 13:20 exaggerate some [ __ ] for to make the joke for fun and and then I’ll be divorced. 13:26 Exactly. Exactly. I like being married, man. 13:32 So, be speaking of bad ideas. Now, let’s go. Let’s hit it. You know, I tweeted the other day 13:37 that I missed the post trade deadline waiver trades 13:43 and Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I think a lot of people did like a lot of people were were commenting and 13:48 and and tweeting and messaging me and stuff and like Well, I think a lot of people didn’t even know that they were anymore. Some 13:53 people were like, “When did that go away?” And this has been gone since like 2019 or something, right? 13:59 And so, but I was thinking about it because I liked those. And I think also 14:04 it’s it’s a good thing when teams when you got a team, let’s say like like the 14:09 Cubs this year, right? They trade for Sroka. Guy gets hurt immediately. Now, 14:15 maybe a little foresight guys. I’m not who you trade it for, but he’s never been injured before. 14:21 It’s somewhat bad luck, right? And other teams have experienced bad luck like that before. Yeah. 14:27 So I was thinking the waiver trade with a twist beef one. 14:32 That’s it. One. So the way it used to work is you put a guy out on waivers, but they’re 14:38 revocable. So he goes through the waivers, pull him back. So if if someone claims him that you 14:44 don’t want to trade him to or that’s just grabbing them for no reason, you pull them back. Or if you don’t make a 14:50 deal in like 48 hours, it just automatically they come back, right? And then if you get through waiverss, 14:56 you can trade the guy to whoever. Free and clear. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. [ __ ] that. I don’t like either part of 15:04 that. Okay. All right. All right. We’re going somewhere now. There’s no free and clear in this. 15:10 You put your claim in if you want the player. Also, not revocable. 15:16 Not revocable at all. You put that guy out there, he’s out there. Yeah, he’s out there. Someone claims him, 15:24 they can get him. But here’s the here’s the extra twist. We’re we’re talking draft picks now, 15:30 Beef. Oh, okay. So, all right. If you put a claim on a guy, let’s say, for example, the White Socks 15:37 put Andrew Beni out there. Okay. That that’s a big contract to eat, 15:43 correct? Right. Yep. Well, let’s say you you want the guy, 15:49 whoever the team is that claims him, they are getting him, but they give up a 15:55 minimum of their second round pick in the next draft. Oh, too high. Too high. 16:02 You think too high? I think too high. Cuz third that they’re not going to want to sacrifice. I thought you going to say they’re going to have to give their give 16:08 up their last pick of the draft or something like that. No, I mean it’s got it’s got to hurt. It’s got to be something. Yeah, it’s 16:13 going to be something. Yeah. So, so they can’t be [ __ ] around. I know what you’re saying. Don’t just do it. Yeah. You’re not [ __ ] 16:19 has to really want that guy. Yes. And they have to be willing to pay something for I’m fine if it’s a third 16:24 or fourth pick or whatever we feel makes sense. But it’s got to hurt. It’s got to hurt a little. It’s got to hurt a little bit so that so 16:30 that like the Pirates don’t just grab everybody or the Rock, right? I was going to ask you about that. How 16:35 How do you deter the teams first in line from just blocking everything for every [ __ ] thing just to be [ __ ] 16:41 Right. Okay. So, this is how you do it. You make Oh, maybe it’s, you know, start we start at the fourth pick but you get second 16:46 second guy it’s a third pick and second and so on right you can only do four cuz you run out of picks so I’m thinking 16:53 something along those lines so that like you can continue to trade 16:59 but it’s a it’s a worse system like it has to be a worse system 17:05 so that like you do still try and get everything by the deadline you don’t want to be in this predicament but 17:12 right it could be a great way to dump salaries and like teams might be more apt to to 17:18 do a bigger salary going like hey man at the end of this I know I can just put this dude on the wire get at least a 17:25 fourth round pick out of it. So like yeah I kind of wonder let’s see what is 17:30 what’s a fourth round pick uh draft bonus pool in MLB worth because that 17:36 because because that’s really the the key right there, right? They lose they lose the value. They lose the money, 17:42 right? Yeah. They lose the money. Like that’s that’s the thing. So the guys really got to be worth it. I wonder if you So fourth round. Yeah. Fourth round 17:48 you’re you’re still losing like the top teams are in the $700,000 range. Oh wow. 17:54 Bottom the bottom teams are like in the half million range. That’s a lot to lose from your draft pool. So So may but I 18:01 like I like the idea of a I like the idea of a penalty. Maybe the penalty could be if you do it like you know how 18:07 in the in the in the 10th round or beyond, I think it’s the 10th round or beyond. They could spend up to a certain 18:12 number and it doesn’t count against cats like 100 grand or 100 maybe take that limitation away or something like that. 18:18 But I like the idea of that has to hurt in some way. So you can’t just be cocking up the works here. You can’t be 18:24 gumming everything up all the time just to block every single guy. It could also be that you get to trade some of that pool if you want to. Now 18:31 that that is the other part I was thinking about is like you might see some interesting players not move at the 18:36 regular deadline cuz they’re like I would like now does the other team get it or do you just forfeit it? Because if 18:41 the other team gets it you could have some interesting [ __ ] trades happening that era you know get it the 18:48 other team gets it. The other team get it you might have some wild trades going on purposefully in that section where 18:54 they tell the other teams do not touch this [ __ ] guy. He’s going to that team for that bonus pool. I need that [ __ ] for next year. But anyone could 19:00 [ __ ] it up. Anyone could [ __ ] it up. Yeah. So it have to be a a signaling thing like the real draft where you’re like, “Don’t 19:06 sign me. I’m going to sign with them. Otherwise, I’m going I’m going back to college.” So let’s let’s say let’s say it’s like a 19:11 hundred like a 100red grand of your your entire bonus pool you have to give away, right? As like 19:16 the the baseline. The Rockies should be taking everybody. 19:23 Well, they’re not anywhere. Staff have a whole new team instead of having to wait for the draft. Socks, 19:28 too. You know, it’s funny though. I like I I like the general idea because the player 19:34 movement had kind of stopped. But then it started back up again the last year or two where teams when the guys stopped 19:41 being usable after the trade deadline just to get rid of the salaries. They were throwing them out there and hoping 19:46 someone claimed them so they have to [ __ ] pay the guys anymore. It’s like here here’s some free available talent and teams were picking up bullpen arms 19:53 and [ __ ] Not pre anything premium but like stuff to get you to the deadline whatever you know 19:58 18 or something like 2018 or something where Verlander moved or 17 like somewhere around there. Oh and that Yeah. Yeah. And that uh but 20:05 I don’t think he was a I don’t think he was a waiver deadline though because when the waiver one you could not play you couldn’t play in the postseason 20:10 right when he moved he moved right before the regular one I believe was the deal because he then he was able to play 20:16 in the postseason. That was the old rules too. You couldn’t play in the postseason when you were in the waiver uh round of it because I remember guys 20:22 that move in September. It’s like, well, he can’t be on the postseason roster, but he can help them, you know, for the last month. And I feel like there was a deadline for 20:28 that, too, though. I feel like there was like a I think you’re right. September one maybe was that deadline. Yeah. Like August 31st. You could you 20:34 could still you could still do it. Maybe that’s right. Yeah, you could still you could still go to the And and yeah, PR is saying 2017 uh 20:41 Verlander moved, but I I I don’t remember if it was it was uh waiver. I think it was waiver. 20:47 These guys love love the idea of the waiver. Uh Austin Jackson, Chicago baseball waiver acquisition legend says 20:52 uh Perez. Jackie Trior says that’s how we got white socks legend now. It’s real. Yes, it is. They claimed him and 20:57 then like go ahead and throw the and they just took the salary. Yeah, it’s totally I loved that claim. I love that when it 21:04 happened because it was just like you didn’t give up anything. It just play and it was like good. We 21:11 could use this guy. this guy and uh a lot of people didn’t care for Alex Rios because he had really good and really 21:16 bad years, but overall I thought he was decent. Trey says Socks could deal Aaron Savale and uh Mike a Taylor if it 21:22 existed. Well, I don’t know if we want to deal Savale yet. We’ll talk about that in the back half of the show. Starting pitching uh is uh in shambles 21:29 right now, but we’ll we’ll discuss that. We’ll get there. Garage says uh Camo Silver Ice a truly lowquality option. I 21:37 assume that’s some sort of drink, right? I’m gonna write that. Is that Is that a drink for the uh Camel Silver Ice? 21:44 Oh, yeah. No, this is a beer of some sortof 21:51 pops up immediately. It is a 17enter. It’s one of those It’s one of those ice 21:58 Okay. Yeah. Okay. It’s one of those Yeah. No, it’s Yeah. Throw that on the list for now, TZ. We’re not going to commit to it yet, but 22:03 I like this. I like this shot by uh if we could get a 24 ounce can of it. I 22:08 think I think it’s it’s on the list. I think it makes I think it makes the list. Yeah. Let’s see. I think Yeah, it says 22:15 24 ounces here in this this one. So, okay. And there’s a 40 oz, too. It feels like a 24 oz. It definitely 22:21 feels You mentioned trying to nail that 40 oz during the show. Oh, man. 22:28 God damn. That would be absolutely insane. But, you know, so speaking of speaking of drink, I want to make everybody drink. So, we’re going to put what uh my 22:34 sock summer on the screen for a second. Like a [ __ ] [ __ ] A weak [ __ ] 22:41 So, everybody everybody drink. You just saw him. You saw them. You heard him. 22:47 I’ll be honest with you. We don’t use I know there’s some good there’s some good Myox summer stuff in in here in the in 22:53 the in the videos. But Beef, how you doing tonight, buddy? Well, I’m good. I’m I’m uh tanned, 22:59 rested, and and still alive actually after my excursion to San Diego. It was very fun time. Uh great trip. Got a 23:04 chance to see some of our family. Uh Trezy, I’ll catch up with you later on that later. Nothing really no stories to tell you. Just some fun stuff from 23:11 hanging out. But man, uh I I came to some realizations in San Diego, Ty. I 23:17 And I know you and I have visited there a lot of times, and as we get as we get older, I get more reflective of what it 23:24 might be like to live in San Diego. and just some choices that you might make 23:29 about life that might be different if you weren’t in San Diego. So, my a couple questions for you. Um, I always 23:35 thought this was a given and but maybe it’s not. So, I want to throw this first. Uh, if you had to be homeless, 23:42 San Diego’s got to be the number one city, right, for being homeless in the US. I would think. What do you think? 23:47 How about that? I think I mean like weatherwise for sure. Weatherwise, it’s tremendous. 23:53 It’s got to be. I don’t know how they treat the homeless there. I I don’t 23:58 I don’t know if I saw a lot of them, but I don’t know how they were being treated. Yeah. I mean, like, that’s the thing. 24:05 There’s not a shortage of them, so I think they’re okay. But yeah, I mean, like, if you’re thinking of a place that 24:10 you want to be like, I guess being homeless in Hawaii would be like the next, but like 24:16 there’s hurricanes and [ __ ] but it’s also I don’t know. They’re not really the weather. There’s volcanoes, 24:23 but like I also I don’t I don’t know how you get there, right? Like I 24:29 Yeah, it seems you got to get in the bottom of a ship or whatever, you know? Yeah, it’s a tough It’s a tough commute. 24:35 It’s a tough Yeah, it’s tough getting there. But San Diego, you just give blows all the way on the drive. You just you’re 24:41 good. Seems attainable. Seems attainable. You steal a car or something, you’re you’re good. 24:46 Gas, gas or grass? No one No one rides for free trees. You know that. Yeah, I I 24:54 [ __ ] If you’re homeless, you don’t really have an option to travel. You can walk. I was going to say you got two 24:59 feet still. Let’s go. You could hitchhike. You could You could jump on You could 25:06 jump on a train and like wait till they notice and kick you off. Swim. No way. Oh yeah, good luck. 25:15 That’ll work out great. Bruan looks as being almost on a 25:20 tropical island with no shelter. No thanks. Yeah, it was kind of my thought. There’s still a little too much that could happen in Hawaii. San Diego seems 25:26 a little more calm or calm or something. Yeah, a little bit. I don’t know. Okay. All 25:33 right. So, we I think we’re pretty good on that one. Second question. I think San Diego is is a good option. 25:38 I future. Yeah, I think so. For my for my future. 25:43 And truth be told, we’re planning my future here. Well, just in case you always, you know, got for a rainy day. 25:49 Uh, second thing up about San Diego. Um, and I have this thought go through my mind every time, especially I’m out for 25:56 like a walk. I got my earbuds in going I’m down by, you know, by the water. See 26:01 all these fit people moving around in San Diego. And Theresy, do you ever think to yourself, 26:07 I would get in really good shape if I lived in a place like San Diego? Or do you just assume that the pressures and 26:14 the vagaries of life would still crush you no matter where you are and force you into your subpar body that you’re 26:20 currently in? This was a dilemma I was having on my long walk a couple days. So, here’s the thing. Here’s the thing 26:26 because I I do think about stuff like this and like pre- pandemic I was like, you know, if I 26:33 ever had the opportunity to have a job where I work from home all the time, I’d 26:38 be exercising. I’d be on the bike. I’d be cuz I’d have this extra time that I 26:43 commute. I would use that time to get in shape and I would eat salads for lunch. 26:49 I would I would just be healthier and then you know forced I had the the only 26:58 option of working from home. I did not lose weight. I could I could 27:03 tell you that I didn’t get I didn’t gain a ton of weight. I am proud to say that like I I I kept around my body weight 27:11 during during that with with limited access to the outside world mostly because 27:17 I didn’t drink a ton of beer, right? Like so that helps. But now now I have these like grand 27:23 fantasies of like, man, if I were able to retire early, I’d probably, you know, what would I do on my I’d probably work 27:28 out a bunch. I’d be I’d be eating healthier cuz I wouldn’t be going out to like quick lunch and get a pizza or something. 27:35 I’m so full of [ __ ] to myself cuz like I I wouldn’t do that. 27:41 I’d be I’d basically be Homer Simpson when when he’s like he can’t even dial his phone anymore. He has to get a 27:48 dialing wand cuz he cuz his hands are too fat. Like I look I I like to lie to 27:53 myself and be like that. And I beef I think I don’t know if this is what you’re doing, but I know that if I was 27:58 out in San Diego looking at the beautiful weather and knowing how much I’d be outside if I could, 28:04 I know that I would tell myself that. And then two months into living out 28:10 there, I’d be like, “Holy [ __ ] that’s my 14th Ancient Aliens in a row that I 28:16 watched like and and haven’t been outside in two and a half days.” 28:21 Now, that part I is the only part of what you just said that I disagree with. I think if I was there, I’d be tan all 28:27 year round for sure, but I would but I would not be in better shape. I have the 28:32 same thought you did, Tracy. I thought there’s no way because everything, all the normal stresses of life would still 28:37 [ __ ] crush me. Yeah, maybe I’d get outside and walk a little bit more. I could be outside a little more often. Yeah. Then I would end up in a beer 28:44 garden more often, too. So, like, what the [ __ ] It would it would balance itself out. I would never get better. Like, if you Where should I walk? Oh, the bar. All 28:50 right, it’s open and everyone’s out there in it. I might as well go in it, too. That’ll be me. I was like, “Yeah, 28:56 this has never happened.” And because I was walking I was walking down uh down by the water near the convention center. 29:03 So, and and near the ballpark and I walked through there’s like a little outlet. It’s like a park out there and there are people playing basketball and 29:09 guys in hellish shape, you know, doing pull-ups and [ __ ] like that. I was like, “I could be one of those guys if I lived 29:14 here.” And I’m like, “You wouldn’t be one of those [ __ ] guys. You’d be a fat ass like you currently are.” You’d go there, you’d you’d walk right by him 29:20 and you’d be like Billy Bob Thornton and Bad Santa watching a bunch of girls play volleyball. That’s that’s exactly what 29:26 you would do. That would be eating a [ __ ] corn dog. 100%. Now, last question from from my 29:32 San Diego experience. I noticed especially when we were on Corn Island, I don’t know if it that’s 29:38 just because you know the resort we were at or whatever, but people were super nice, especially in service industry. 29:45 Very [ __ ] nice all throughout the trip. My question for you, Trezy, is do you think it’d be friendlier if you 29:50 lived in a place that was kind of that pleasant weather-wise and everything, or do you think it wouldn’t don’t change 29:56 your disposition at all? I would. And and this is something I actually know and have have experimented 30:04 with, okay, to understand because I think that like, you know, 30:10 like the the sunlight thing like like helping it is is 100% accurate. It’s 30:15 real. I mean, it’s scientific everything, but I I’ve I’ve noticed that like when I’m at work. So, I have I 30:23 have an office, but it’s it’s not I I ain’t got no corner office. All right. I got an office and it’s it’s basically 30:29 Milton’s office, right? Like, so there’s your wife has been in my office. She knows there’s no sunlight getting 30:35 anywhere [ __ ] near that. Okay? Right? So, like if I’m in my office all day, 30:41 I was starting to realize that I got to be more and more of a throughout the 30:46 day. And it’s not even like I’m hungry or anything or like cuz I’m a fat guy, I know, but like maybe it’s getting 30:52 hungry. Stay well fed, you But it but then I would go down to to like go outside or 30:58 something and just even getting a little glimpse of the sunlight or I walk to a meeting and I go past the windows and 31:04 there’s like some sunlight and like I’m actually I feel a little bit different. So I feel like I end up getting one of 31:10 those lights in my office so that I’m less I probably have some of my co-workers 31:16 listening to this. They’re like he’s still a [ __ ] prick. That light don’t help. But 31:21 but I I I swear I swear it does I swear it does help. Even if it’s just a 31:27 a mental thing that I think it’s helping, right? Like I do I do feel better. So like I genuinely think that I 31:34 would be a nicer person if I were in an area like that. I feel like people in general are [ __ ] miserable in the in 31:43 the dead of winter. Like in February, like late January, February, people are 31:49 [ __ ] miserable. Like it’s like Yeah. I think I think in general that’s 31:55 correct. Yeah. That’s why when we when we do like a a a show in January, 32:01 we we pack that [ __ ] because people are like, “Good. I gotta get away from all these miserable [ __ ] and have a 32:08 good time.” It’s true. It’s true. So, any excuse to get get around some 32:14 people, have some fun. We need That’s why we’re doing it. That’s why we’re doing it. 32:19 Yeah, I agree with you 100% on that part. I think I think for sure I’d be uh friendlier. Uh, and I think we’re both 32:25 pretty mild man. I’m I’m I’m probably more mild mannered than you are, but we’re both both pretty mildmannered, but I think it would be uh uh much more so 32:32 that uh couple comments. Jackie Tran says, “That’s a nice area. Beef absolutely was.” Uh SPF says, “Be you’d 32:38 have the best calves.” I mean, I got strong calves already. Caps can only get better. Uh and then Sam Reeves says, 32:44 “Uh, look at Willie P. Gem of a man in San Diego. Moved to Chicago. Total 32:49 asshole.” There’s your proof. There’s a s actual sample right there. I won’t believe it. I won’t believe 32:55 that. He’s a lovely man. How dare you. Three, you want me to keep rolling or 33:01 you or you want to play the ad and we’ll move on to the next thing? [ __ ] that. Let’s keep going, man. Okay. So, got all the time in the world. 33:07 We were talking about uh my sock summer and he’s a man who’s known to have the 33:13 BWC. Okay. Now I since he’s not here, I wanted to share this with with you and 33:18 also with the audience uh and and male or female because uh females you could pass this on to your male. But I caught 33:25 a 40 secondond Tik Tok that the person who claimed to be a doctor said she’s 33:32 been creating big uh you know C’s for men for 31 years and she has just these 33:38 four simple tips. So Tracy, I’m going to throw the tips by you. Let’s see how good you think you could be at abiding 33:43 by them. Okay. Okay, there’s four four little things. Uh, number one, hang a huge weight from it. 33:50 No, no, no. Number one, two Brazil nuts per day. Now, it seems pretty easy, 33:55 right? Brazil nuts, they’re pretty tasty, you know? I’m not a big Brazil nut fan. I work around those and the mix nut thing, but 34:02 like I’ll accidentally have a couple. I will tell you that alone does not help. 34:07 So, let’s let’s keep going. Okay. All right. So, you’re naysayer on that one. Number two, she said you got 34:13 to have this right before uh bedtime. Ginger and Jins Singh tea. Supposed to 34:19 supposed to be good for the overnight. Get good sleep and and ginger and gins singing tea. That’s interesting because I feel like 34:24 Jens Singh gives you some energy. Yeah. Why would you want to do it before bed? Is that what you’re thinking? 34:30 That seems weird. That seems weird. But okay, I’m still listening. That’s where she wants you to have the energy. I mean, that’s what she’s I 34:35 guess. So that’s what she’s pushing for. Number three, she says, “A glass of pomegranate juice in the morning. 34:42 Nitrous oxide is good for blood flow, especially down there.” Here’s the thing. I love pomegranate juice. It’s 34:48 delicious. Have you ever had it before? What am I, a [ __ ] millionaire? 34:53 Hey, you want you want a big pump uh unit or not? What? I don’t know, man. Pomegranate juice is 35:00 it’s like $400 an ounce. It’s like buying saffron. 35:06 I’m trying to make saffron saffron rice. You got to bust open a 41k to do that [ __ ] 35:12 Okay, that’s that’s three. That’s three. And the last one, she says, uh, beetroot 35:17 supplement daily. I don’t know what beetroot is, but again, the more nitric oxide supposed to get down into the, you 35:24 know, a little. So, there you go. Four tips. Look at this. And you’ll be right on par my sock summer. 35:29 SPF says $8 a small bottle at the jewels. At the jewels. I mean, eight bucks a day. 35:35 It’s $56 a week, man. There you go, baby. Bucks a week. Jesus Christ. 35:40 Get it flowing. Not worth. 35:45 That’s fine. That’s That’s fair enough. The Jins Singh thing is throwing me off. Like that is the one thing in 35:51 Jins Singh is was like one of those things, Trezy. It was like the cure all for everything. You remember when we 35:57 were younger, Dad used to take the Jins Singh. Yeah, he was big into the gins sing, you know, but that was like you you do that and 36:03 then you work out. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And he was he got pumped up. He was pretty uh he was looking good. But 36:09 I think there’s an extra regimen that they’re talking about. They’re like ginger jins sing and then something else 36:15 and then go to sleep. I don’t know what it is. I am not going to jump to conclusions. 36:22 I’m trying to lead the audience. All right. Uh up next, I just got to ask you about this squeezy. It’s everywhere. It 36:29 is the WNBA dildo situation. Where are you at? With dildos being tossed onto 36:36 the field. It’s not the first place this has happened. This has happened in football for years and years. This happened a lot with the with uh the 36:43 Patriots. Yeah, exactly. Buffalo Bills. Patriots go to the Bills. Patriots go to 36:48 the Bills stadium. And this is happening. The Bills mafia is ruthless. 36:54 They start a lot of trends. But have you seen this? This has been happening lately. WM games. What are you talking about? So, the thing that is that I am like 37:02 enthralled by in this situation is not the the dong or or you know the players 37:08 reaction cuz like Kelsey Plum kicking that thing like a goddamn football was hilarious. 37:16 But the fact that there is a betting market for this Yeah. The poly market has it right. 37:21 And that like I think a few places have it. Okay. All right. And the there were 37:28 games that ended up with more money on the dildo market than on the actual 37:36 game. Like so more people handle more people were betting 37:43 that than who’s going to win the game. And I can’t help but think like I saw a few tweets 37:50 where people are like why not just bet like the max five grand bet on this for like 37:57 do it yourself the color the color that’s like the the lowest odd like the best odds like or 38:03 sorry longest odds. Yeah. And just be like throw that [ __ ] out there. Even if you get arrested what are 38:09 they going to charge you five grand? You just made like 40 grand. So you don’t hang on though. You don’t know 38:15 how many dildo artists are there and they might beat you to the punch. They might beat you to it. They might throw. 38:21 You better have a good arm. You better knock it off the court. 38:27 Jesus. I mean, like I I also like I I guess I’m too used to going to White 38:33 Sox games where they like scour through everything that you have. Yeah. Like security hasn’t noticed these. Like 38:42 I guess like if you just do like the hey just walk through. I know. I mean the drew you but I you know you 38:49 can hide them in certain places. Christopher Walkin knows take it easy there. Right. 38:55 Yeah. It wasn’t in my bag. You’re right. A wa a watch and something else. 39:02 Hello. But I don’t know. I’m like I I also I 39:09 also think it’s I’m also going to find it very funny the people that get busted 39:14 for doing it um and get like a huge fine 39:19 or like or like a or like put on probation or something like I don’t 39:24 think anyone’s going to serve prison time over this but like it’ll definitely be on your permanent record, 39:30 right? Imagine forever my friend. Imagine imagine you’re going to a job interview and 39:36 they’re like, “We’re just going to do a simple background check.” Like, “So, uh, do you want to explain 39:43 this green dildo in?” Well, 39:50 how does that fit in? How you fit on this team? The year is 2025. 39:56 Hey, what are you in for? That’d be a fun conversation, too. 40:03 I just think it’s so bizarre and and weird and and it’s like I don’t know 40:08 whether to like I I I’ve laughed at it already, but I don’t know if I’m tired of it already or if I’m just sort of 40:14 like it’s going to go away before I believe anything about it. Like I even care at all. I don’t need any more of it. 40:21 It’s no’s gone. The the betting like the I think it was 40:26 I I forget the guy’s name. Is it Dave Mason? One of the guys that like Dave Mason’s the bet online guy. 40:33 Yeah. Yeah. I was watching Sammy and Joe the other day and they were talking about it and 40:38 they’re like, “Yeah, Dave Mason posting like I’m I’m waking up in the middle of the night to 40:46 go reset the odds on this because it happened again.” And he’s like, “What 40:52 what did I do to end up in this position position in my life?” What a life. 40:59 That’s insane [ __ ] Oh man. On the comments still back on 41:04 the uh on the uh other thing. No horny goat weed and uh 41:10 and uh D says uh cocaine question mark. Oh socks this is claiming. How the [ __ ] 41:15 do we not know what a beetroot is? We don’t. I don’t know. I never heard of it. I’m sorry. I mean, I assume it has 41:22 something to do with beats, but like 41:28 I don’t think we got Nathan’s drink here. He says, “If Jins Singh worked, my sock summer would be referencing Asian porn stars 41:34 like the buzzer onsanity and this next. 41:40 That’s correct. Actually, all right. That’s a great comment. That’s a great 41:47 comment. Absolutely. Nathan, if you wanted those tickets, you just just shout. Just shout, man. Absolutely can 41:53 have them. You want You want another one or no? Let’s go. Let’s get Let’s keep it going. All right. My guy, and this is going to 42:00 be funny. This will hit home uh w with us here. My guy Scott Lewis, VP of Wu Tank Financial, tweeted this the other 42:06 day. He says, uh, “This is a pot meets kettle tweet, and it and it is for us, too, Trees, especially if you believe this.” He says, “But I truly think slow 42:13 death of sports coverage started when fans got voices.” Uh, parenthesis. Yes, I know I got a lot of nerve obviously, 42:20 but I truly believe that. Laugh my ass off. For every good fan turned content creator media member, there’s 10 others 42:26 who are terrible. Agree or disagree with that statement. Uh I squeeze it. I strongly disagree with this statement. 42:34 Love it. Let’s go. Because I would say that for every good fan content creator, there’s a hundred 42:41 terrible fan content creators. 42:48 I saw the tweet and I was sort of like, yeah, I I I agree wholeheartly with this 42:53 and not and not just in a way where like I I think, oh, we’re obviously some of the good ones and we’re not part of that 43:00 question because I think we teeter close enough to being bad sometimes with some of that stuff. I just think, [ __ ] we 43:07 better be better than this, man. Otherwise, we should shut the [ __ ] up. And so, like, that’s the one thing that keeps me driven. the fact that he was 43:13 touching on he’s touching a nerve with me because I was sort of like, man, I always got to make sure I’m prepared. Make sure we don’t sound like total 43:19 [ __ ] Yeah, we’re going to talk [ __ ] and we’re going to talk toilet uh stuff and dildo’s flying in the corner or whatever. But when we’re talking 43:25 ball, I better [ __ ] know what I’m talking about. Otherwise, I’m going to be one of these [ __ ] [ __ ] that, you know, that’s not prepared, doesn’t 43:30 know. I was like, man, that really hit me hard. Like, and especially a guy that we’re we’re buddies with that’s like putting that [ __ ] out. It’s crazy. 43:35 I mean, it’s it it feels like the Carlin it feels like the Carlin thing, right? It’s like think of who you would 43:41 consider to have average intelligence and realize that half the population is dumber than that guy. So like if we’re 43:48 if we’re on the line beef, if we’re on the line, 43:53 you know, like there’s some stuff out there. There is some stuff out there. That’s correct. Yeah. 44:00 I mean, some of it don’t last long. Some of it only, you know, get a few couple tree episodes, but like it’s out there. 44:06 There’s tons of it. There’s tons of this is if you if you consider it just like 44:13 every fan talking on Twitter, too. I mean, that is it’s it’s exponentially 44:18 it’s even huger different. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I like that. I I I love Scott. 44:25 Yeah, Scott’s the We got to get Scott back on here. I noticed that they’re kicking up their Bears cover. So, we got to do it pretty soon. We got to get 44:31 before they get busy. We got to do a Bears thing before we get to the season because they’re going to be super busy during the season. Yeah, 44:37 absolutely. CD says quote unquote content creators have ruined the world. We’re part of that apparently. 44:43 They’re the only thing like so I I’ll say that like not us, 44:50 but some of the uh more adult themed content creators are the only thing 44:56 keeping some equality uh in in wealth in this world. They’re pulling from They’re 45:02 pulling from the rich and bringing some of that back into into our neighborhoods, man. Like, so like I I 45:08 don’t know. I I I can’t be mad at them. I can’t be mad at them. We’ll leave them out of this. Okay. All 45:14 right. Let me get to one last thing for you. I I do have a couple more, but we’ll hold them off in those. So, I I I I had this uh I had this uh thought in 45:23 my head the other day. You know, people always tell you you you got to cut the 45:28 toxic people out of your life. And that’s absolutely true. You got to get rid of people who are bad for you or 45:34 just bad in general or when they show up, they change the way you are and make you into something you’re not. And that 45:41 kind of gets all the shine and gets all the credit. But Treezy, let me tell you something just as important in my personal opinion. I want to hear what 45:47 you think is you got to cut the pain in the ass people from your life. Because 45:52 the pain in the ass people more so, right? Exact. They take up time. They 45:58 [ __ ] waste all your valuable resources on dumb [ __ ] The pain in the ass people may be worse than the toxic 46:05 people because they can linger longer. Toxic person, you know, to get rid of that. You’re like, we got to get rid of 46:11 that. That per they’re not invited anymore to the to the group dinner or whatever. But the pain in the ass person 46:16 is too quasi nice. They’re not really nice cuz they’re really a big pain in the ass to you regardless, but they’re 46:22 quasi nice, so no one else is willing to gang up and get rid of them. They could hurt, man. 46:27 So, I remember so back in the day when I was working tech support. I was, you know, you you keep up on industry stuff, 46:33 you know, I do that now. Y, but I’m I was reading an article and I I forget which phone company was. It was 46:38 like Verizon or Sprint or somebody. And I was reading this thing and they’re like, “The top 1% of the people that put 46:47 in support tickets for this phone company, the top 1%, they make up like 46:54 some ungodly number of of the amount of of support tickets they get. They just 47:00 get rid of them. They’re just like, “You can’t have this this service anymore. You are blocked. You cannot call anyone 47:06 out. You’re out. Go use someone else’s service. We don’t want you clients. firing your customers. Yeah, that’s 47:11 right. I was like, this is that’s like the dream. That’s the dream. Like, if if you 47:18 could take every everybody that soaks up like every ounce of your patience and just be like, go find a different planet 47:25 to live on like this somewhere else. That’s that’s how you got to do it. 47:31 That’s I I I I like that beef. I like I do think you know get the toxic people out of your life but I think those 47:37 people the pain in the ass people are are toxic too like yeah their own way they wouldn’t be 47:43 considered toxic by the random person but you’re right in their own way they are toxic they’re they’re they’re 47:48 they’re bad for you Amber says 20% of your people cause 80% of your problems asking about HR 100% correct this is all 47:55 paro principle type [ __ ] layered in different directions but yes agreed 100% 48:01 and other thing about the toxic people or what people might say is toxic uh trees. Remember, we would we would label 48:07 some of our friends um high risk, high reward friends. 48:13 So, like you could end up in a a fight because of this friend, but you might also have one of the best [ __ ] nights 48:20 you’ve ever had because of this friend. And so, they might for a lot of people be on the toxic side. We might pull them 48:25 off the toxic side just barely. Get limited doses of that friend, but they’re not the pain in the ass friend. 48:30 The pain in the ass friend is way worse. Yeah. Oh yeah. Way worse. Way worse because like most of the time you can 48:38 deescalate that fight. Most of the time you can get sometimes you get hit, you know. It happens. 48:44 Try not to. Sam Reeves says, “Uh, this explains why MSS is missing tonight.” No, that is not true. How dare you, Sam. 48:50 And now they’re laughing out in the comments. You son of a [ __ ] MSS doing some beautiful merch work out there. Yeah, I can’t wait to for people 48:55 to see the the next thing because there’s no question. I was I was pretty I was He told me about it. I was like, 49:01 “Yeah.” And then he showed it to me. I was like, “Oh, I like that. I do like that.” Like, “Let’s go.” 49:07 All right, we should probably get to goddamn commercial here. Let’s do it. Let’s I got it. 49:15 Summer’s not over yet. 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I 50:06 ain’t been there in a minute. It’s uh it’s delicious. But uh beef, it is time 50:13 for the local look. Yes. Love the local look. I’m gonna kick it off here. 50:19 Do it. Now, me me and you, we typically find a way to be out of town the weekend of 50:25 Laala Palooa. Fourth of Fourth of July La Palooa. You 50:30 can almost count on us being gone somewhere. I either hang out just strictly on the southside and just just avoid everything 50:37 or I just get the hell out of town. So, I missed this and I think you probably 50:42 missed this too. I did. But apparently the weekend of La Palooa 50:48 there were pe there was people who were having a little bit of a protest over by 50:53 the bean. Oh, okay. And the article that I read is titled, 50:58 “No, a man isn’t inside Chicago’s Bean.” Alderman says this is not an Onion 51:05 article. What the [ __ ] says, “Beginning last week, the group of less than a dozen people could be seen standing 51:11 outside chanting,” there is a man in the bean. “What do we want? The man to get 51:16 out. When do we want it? Now,” the group was heard saying. Signs called for the 51:22 man’s release and for officials to unlock Cloudgate. Handouts suggested the man’s existence was being kept a secret 51:28 from Chicagoans. The handouts claimed a baby was stolen during the construction of the sculpture and has been captive 51:34 inside the bean for two decades. When asked what led to to believing a man was trapped inside the sculpture, the group 51:40 told NBC Chicago’s Matthew Rodriguez, “When the light hits it just right, and you’re looking at it from the perfect 51:47 angle, you can see a faint outline of a man.” They urged people to call the 51:52 local alderman’s office and demand the man’s release. So, I have a couple questions for you, Keith, because 51:58 because the alderman said that their phone lines were flooded 52:04 with calls about this and they thought it was funny, but they were like, “Hey, this is getting in the way of actual 52:10 alder manic business. Please stop doing this.” So, I got a couple questions. One is 52:18 I like the bit, but who the [ __ ] is who who is calling the alderman over this? 52:23 Describe the person to me that would actually pick up the phone and make a call to the because nobody calls anybody 52:29 anymore. No. No. So, who’s who’s making this phone call? Yeah. It’s It’s funny that you mentioned that because I was trying to think of 52:35 the proper age group because normally activists are younger, right? But this 52:41 is not a young act. Young activists also ain’t going down to the bean and and looking at the bean very closely. 52:46 They’re going to be other places in known causes. This has to be someone in their 50s or 60s and someone that has a 52:52 personal [ __ ] beef with this alderman. Like it’s it’s le it’s less about the initial thing that was done 52:58 and more about you screwed me out of something 25 years ago. And now I got some people. We’ll pull these people 53:03 together and we’ll pull this thing and we can kind of get a handful of idiots to believe this. [ __ ] it. Let’s just go 53:09 with it. That there’s a man inside of this. So I think it’s someone I’ll say someone in their late 50s definitely 53:15 unemployed. They not to say they didn’t at some point have a good job, but they got time on their hands right now to 53:21 scheme this. You gota you gota have you have a little time to scheme it. It’s tough to be able to do as your sideline, you know, like 53:26 I’m not who’s running this, but who’s 53:31 actually picking up the phone and calling the goddamn alderman about this? 53:37 Yeah. No, it’s it’s definitely not people who live in that area. It’s got to be people from outside. I’m 53:43 guessing uh far north side uh you know people that are are just frustrated with 53:48 things and just want to give some [ __ ] to the Solomon because who who the [ __ ] it’s not young people. Young people aren’t calling for that. Young people 53:54 call for other weird [ __ ] You know like they don’t call anyone. They text they would texting. A young person hasn’t used a phone in at 54:01 least 30 years. If it was a flood of Snapchats then it would be a young young people’s cause 54:06 here. But that’s not what this is right here. It’s got to be older people. It’s got to be people in their 50s. uh semi-retired, retired, unemployed, 54:12 unemployable. That’s the group right there. So, you touched you touched on 54:18 they must have some kind of beef. Must have some kind of beef with the the alderman. And I was thinking like it 54:26 doesn’t like sending it to the alderman’s office seems weak. Like 54:33 remember the Steve Albini thing? So, if you’re not familiar, so Steve Albini tells this story in Out 54:38 of the Loop. great uh which is great documentary and he tells a story about when Jerry Garcia 54:44 died that someone went to like a candlelight vigil for Jerry Garcia and 54:51 handed out flyers that said leave a message if you want to leave a 54:56 message for Jerry’s family well wishes call this number and leave a voice 55:01 message and it was Steve Albini’s number and so like Steve had like thousands of 55:07 voicemails I’m great bit just for Jerry Garcia’s family. 55:14 Incredible bit. This one is like they’re they picked the alderman and it’s going to like an office, right? Like so it’s 55:20 like Yeah. What who should they have sent this to? Like 55:26 who should whose number should this have been? Who would you have picked? Like if you were if you were running this this 55:32 scam, I’m I’m not sure it’s necessarily a bad choice the level they went to with choosing alderman at Trezy because it’s 55:39 a level of it will get some attention. If you go a level or two lower than 55:44 that, at some point they’re going to start blowing you off. You know, a worker, an hourly worker, whatever the 55:50 [ __ ] is going to be like, “Fuck these [ __ ] I’m going to ignore this [ __ ] or whatever.” If you go too high, they don’t care. You know, Alderman’s like 55:57 the perfect level where the where there’s an amount of annoyance and they kind of got to take care of they kind of 56:02 got to deal with [ __ ] in the area. And if even one or two people that call have any juice, you know, they got to [ __ ] 56:08 get their arms around it even if they know it’s total [ __ ] So like that to and that I think that’s one of the things that makes Chicago so good. And 56:17 and people outside don’t love Chicago, but I I’ve heard this thought before. is like, yeah, you know, the guy down the 56:23 street that plows the snow and the one that cleans the street or whatever. And so if something gets [ __ ] up, you have 56:28 someone to complain to and alderman is your your arm to complain to. And so I I think that I think that is a good level. 56:34 I think what do you ty do you think you’d go higher or lower with this complaint than alderman or you think it’s okay? 56:39 Oh, I think I’d do it to like one of my friends like I like I would I would be like it’s useless because it’s it’s too 56:46 mainstream. This should be like pocket uh done to someone you’re friends with and they should get all the grief for 56:51 this. I I mean like kind of right like I mean like I give it to them. They made it 56:56 into like NBC.com, right? Like.com or whatever it was. So like they did a good job of of 57:03 getting it out there like because they did it to the alderman. But I also think like 57:09 it could have like this would be hilarious if you did it to one of your boys. Like 57:15 just kidding. They just got like call this number to to let to protest and you 57:21 know that like it’s it’s like me and I don’t have any message on my voicemail. It’s just like leave a voicemail and 57:27 it’s and so like cuz I’m like I I’m never going to listen to these. But if I all of a sudden got like a thousand 57:33 voicemails, I would be like what what the hell’s going on? Start listening and get all you have a new number is what you have. 57:39 Basically got to it that far. Pra has an idea. He says give the number of a bar with shitty service. Now I was 57:45 thinking how do you think I said box share here’s the way to send it you know John Carney says give them mannequins 57:50 and phone number wait which one I think one of those is only for collect 57:57 calls but like but yeah I mean like I think there’s an endless amount of people that you could 58:03 [ __ ] with and like I I think that the alderman I feel like the problem I have with that 58:09 is you’re pro there’s probably like a a administrator there that That’s actually 58:15 getting that’s that’s got the coverage is black. Like that’s why the alderman’s just like haha this is funny. It’s like it 58:21 wouldn’t be funny if that was your personal [ __ ] phone. Like 58:26 haha real [ __ ] [ __ ] But I think a lot of people don’t even 58:31 they don’t even pick up their uh voicemails or even listen to them anymore. People just [ __ ] delete them if they don’t recognize the number 58:37 because you get so much [ __ ] calls, you know, like he saw my phone the other day. had 53 unlisted to voicemails and I was like, 58:44 “No one’s no one’s leaving me an important voicemail. They’re texting me.” I’m not that bad. I’ll delete them. But, 58:50 you know, yeah, but that does happen. So, like that’s why I kind of think the route they went isn’t bad cuz it’s 58:55 someone picking up a landline and having to catch the call. Like I guess you got like like what PR said is a good idea 59:01 too cuz like in a bar they’re going to pick up the phone. You got to go somewhere where they’re going to pick up the phone but also not somewhere where 59:06 it’s a vital service of any sort. You don’t want to [ __ ] up the Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, something that 59:12 could be important, you know, like you don’t want like a ambulance number or something like Yeah. You don’t want to go too far. 59:18 Let’s say let’s say you have a ticket rep at the socks and he’s not getting you like a bunch of free [ __ ] you know? 59:23 Maybe maybe that guy gets all these calls. I don’t know. You know, like you never you never know. Uh so Nick, if 59:29 you’re listening, you know, let’s keep keep the free [ __ ] coming to 108 or else uh we’re going to run one of these and 59:35 and put your number in there. But uh beef, what do you got for your 59:40 local look? All right, I got it for you. Um this is extremely local uh Treezy and this from 59:46 Block Chicago. It says, “Claw opens in Chinatown with 40 claw games and elusive 59:52 laboo. I don’t know if you know what the Laboos are.” Yeah, I they are dolls. Uh and so the 59:57 new store, one of the few stores open in CL. So this place uh Chinatown, are you so desperate for a Laboo that you’re 1:00:03 willing to test your luck for one? Well, there’s a new place in Chinatown called Clyde that gives you a chance to score a wildly popular monster plush doll, so 1:00:10 long as you have the skill uh with a claw machine. The store opened in June on the second floor of a strip mall at 1:00:15 2252 South Canal Street. It has 40 claw machines with a variety of plush toy 1:00:20 options including Spongebob merchandise, Hello Kitty dolls, various candies, and sodas. One machine at the front of the 1:00:26 store offers the option to win a small boooo. Now, this is the uh Treezy. This is I’m going to pull a picture up here. 1:00:32 This is the uh little um strip mall right there across the street from my old condo where they have the DMV in the 1:00:39 bottom and then there’s a couple of restaurants that look pretty good. I haven’t I haven’t gone there yet, but here’s like a a picture of of the claw 1:00:45 machines or whatever. I was pretty excited to see this. Not because I’m a claw machine enthusiast. Uh even though 1:00:53 uh my daughter Bonia Staky when when we would go to Great Wolf Lodge and we go in what we call the kids casino, which 1:00:59 was the arcade basically. And I always uh told my daughter, I’m I’mma spend unlimited amount of money in the kids 1:01:04 casino here with you because I spent unlimited amount of money in the adult casino for myself. So, how could I how 1:01:09 could I keep you from this? And she loved the goddamn claw machines and was pretty good of them. Would harvest a lot 1:01:14 of stuff out of them actually, surprisingly. But the reason why I’m excited about this, Terresy, that there 1:01:19 is a a claw machine opening up is that we don’t have games or [ __ ] to do 1:01:26 anymore near us. Bridgeport used to be a place that had these types of play and 1:01:32 even in in you know we don’t have nap naps bowling’s been closed for what 20 years and we go naps just to hang out 1:01:37 with the fellas when they were having their bowling whatever but how can a neighborhood not have a [ __ ] bowling alley no bowling alley okay even the 1:01:44 even the bars shinik don’t even have the [ __ ] dart board in the back anymore ty we stopped having fun playing [ __ ] 1:01:50 games and [ __ ] man there’s no arcades in Bridgeport there’s no bowling alley there’s no pool halls there’s no mini 1:01:56 golf there’s no [ __ ] nothing for anyone to do anything with and just kind of have fun and hang back and relax. And 1:02:02 all of these can be applied to barroom games as well, but it doesn’t have to be. It could be stuff that’s closer to 1:02:08 like Dave and Busters where it’s just fun and go hang out. So to make a goddamn excited about this a goddamn golden tea 1:02:14 and put a Capcom bowling in. Exactly. Remember going to Chest to Chest? Our 1:02:20 parents are drinking 50 50 pictures of Miller Light while we’re playing [ __ ] Capcom bowling. 1:02:27 It’s the t time of my life. Absolutely. I mean, uh, Bologn says, 1:02:33 “Plinko and L.” Baloney, I showed you how to get the top prize, right? I I one shot I told him, “Hey, hey, Peter, this 1:02:38 is where you got to put the ball to get the top pri I got the [ __ ] top prize. One shot.” Yeah, that would be helpful. Well, let me tell you something. We 1:02:44 don’t have there’s It’s not f like I love going to a bar just to drink, but it’s always nice when you got the the, 1:02:50 you know, the little machine that you could uh test your skill on trivia or the pictures and what’s missing from the 1:02:56 other picture. that type of [ __ ] Dart board. I’m not a good uh dart thrower, but I [ __ ] love playing darts with 1:03:01 the fellas in the in the back of the thing. You know, bowling alleys, whatever. We lost all that. All that [ __ ] went away. Everyone sold out so 1:03:08 they could [ __ ] build condos instead of having something fun to do, man. We’re [ __ ] A Bridgeport bowling alley 1:03:13 would be great. Be terrific, wouldn’t it? And there’s there’s so much [ __ ] on on 35th Street or on 35th Street and on 1:03:21 on H Hall. On Holl. Yeah. Figure it out. figure it out. Just just, you know, you see where Amova 1:03:28 is just a couple blocks south. There ain’t [ __ ] [ __ ] going on, man. Throw up a bowling alley over there, man. That 1:03:33 [ __ ] would be Make that little corridor or something interesting and fun, you know, and it wouldn’t take a lot of 1:03:39 effort. And [ __ ] you bar owners throw [ __ ] plastic darts. I’m not even telling you the metal darts, right? I’m 1:03:45 not I don’t want no one get stuck in the eye with the metal dart, okay? And I we know how Bridgeport can get sometimes. 1:03:50 Plastic [ __ ] darts. Just throw a plastic dart boards back there. Let’s get a little cr game of cricket going. We can’t do none of that no more. 1:03:56 [ __ ] B. Put a goddamn I I think I I think I saw Barry Bag of Donuts say that there’s a 1:04:02 they put a Pac-Man machine into uh in Wings. Wings. Good idea. 1:04:07 Great. Good. It’s a good start. You know, I do want I I I’ve also I’ve gone to like arcade 1:04:14 bars and like I love those. They’re great. I will say one thing about those. 1:04:20 If you’re the arcade bar where every game is free, I I’m all in. Great bar. 1:04:27 If you’re the one where I got to pay for every [ __ ] game, [ __ ] you. 1:04:33 You’re charging $11 a beer. That pays for my game. All right. I will play the 1:04:39 Simpsons [ __ ] game that you can’t get past the second round for three hours. All right. And just drink my ass 1:04:45 off. Leave me alone. Don’t make me put a quarter in or or buy tokens from you. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Yeah, I see a lot 1:04:52 of people saying they would love to do some bowling co. I would love to bowl. Man, Jack Bowling is my jam. I mean, a lot of people have been telling for 1:04:58 years, Drezy, we should do a a golf outing. We don’t golf, but maybe we do a bowling uh bowling little event there 1:05:04 and have some fun with that. You know, there’s probably some But then we got to go out to the suburbs instead. We should be able to do it. We should be able to 1:05:10 go on 26th Street and do it and get pumpkins catered right in. That’s where N was. Yeah, exactly. And we should be 1:05:16 able to get catered in. It’ll be a great event in Bridgeport, but we can’t do it. No [ __ ] bowling out. This is step 1:05:21 one. Miami Bull’s even closed, man. Like that was Miami Bowl is closed. Yeah, it’s not [ __ ] there anymore. [ __ ] [ __ ] 1:05:27 man. This maybe the first step. Maybe still open. Maybe claw over there on 22nd and you 1:05:35 know, Archer and uh and Canal is basically where this is at. Maybe this is the first step to putting some games 1:05:40 back into the neighborhood and having some fun with it, man. Like I I don’t know. I mean, it it’s just been so 1:05:45 desolate and what whatever. It’s even like I don’t know, we go out and hang out and and now we’re even getting to 1:05:51 the age where we don’t know that many people play 16inch softball, so we’re not even hanging out there or playing ourselves. So, it’s like you get to that 1:05:57 age it’s like we need something. I think we got to tell Cork, you got to put in a some kind of video game in 1:06:03 there or else we’re going to get on the touch tunes and we’re going to play Dragon Force through the fire and flames on repeat forever. 1:06:11 I’ll spend $40,000 so that it’s never ends. Yeah. I mean, how fun would a mini golf 1:06:17 course in Bridgeport be? You know, you hit that, right? You hit you go, you go play and you after the game, you go to the uh socks game. 1:06:24 How hard would that be? How hard would that be to do? The only issue with that is it’s unless 1:06:29 you cover it, it you can only use it, you know, six months of the year, whatever the [ __ ] Yeah. You just in the summer in the 1:06:35 summer, it’s out there in the in the empty lot next to one of these places. That’s a good point. Why goodness not 1:06:41 just set a little mini golf out in the parking lot? I already got 1:06:46 you putt out there. You got to put around Ron KD. That’s 1:06:52 it’s a it’s not even a statue of him. He’s just standing there. He’s eating stuff and things are falling 1:06:58 out of his mouth. You got to put around that, too. Don’t worry about it. Oh, the Jardaire stopped the stopped the ball. God damn it. 1:07:06 Well, good. I’m glad you’re on the same page, man. I’m glad the the commenters say as well. We got to do something about this, man. We’re just We’re 1:07:12 running out of games. We got no games. Are you going to the claw place, though? I think so. I think I’m going to go there just to check it out. I I got to I 1:07:18 probably should cl I’m not I’m not much in the claw game, you know, like if we’re going to the arcades or whatever. 1:07:24 Video games. You You want to go You want to go clown up? We go clown. But I need I need Bonita to be there. 1:07:30 She can She actually knows how to do it. At least she did when she was a little younger. So, I’ll give her like a hundo and just 1:07:37 get as many of those labuboos out as possible. We’re going to sell them on eBay 1:07:42 and not not us with my sacr my sock. Yeah, he’s cutting them out. 1:07:48 He kites our checks with some of this stuff. We’re we’re getting a return there. Mrs. B says, “How about a couple 1:07:53 two tree ski ball machine?” That’s what I’m talking about, man. You have a little action. You know, it’ be some fun. Ski ball’s great. 1:07:59 I love skiball. when we’re in the kids uh kids casino in Great Wolf. I mean, we 1:08:04 haven’t been in a couple years, but I love ski ball, man. I’ll go play some ski ball in there. No, no doubt about it. Quzy says uh we got West West Loop. 1:08:11 There’s a golf mini golf place. Really? Oh, I I wasn’t aware of that. [ __ ] I know there’s a place where you can do 1:08:18 go do that when we’re not going to Savannah Bananas. 1:08:23 Hello. I I am going Friday night, but Friday night I’m supposed to go to So, we’ll see. We’ll see how that goes. see 1:08:30 if our flight gets back in time. That’s a risk, Beef. But that’s a risk I’m willing to take. It’s a risk I’m 1:08:37 willing to take. Absolutely. Uh Tito says, “What about 108 roller ring roller skating out?” 1:08:43 No. No. At our age, are you kidding me? 20 people get injured. Like 1:08:48 roller skating is is second on the list of places where someone will die on a 1:08:53 108 outing. Colorado baseball game is the other one. That’s a drinking at altitude with all you [ __ ] maniacs is 1:09:01 is a terrible idea. Well, all he says is [ __ ] it. Make lot G into a Dave Busters. I don’t want to copy David Buster’s business model, but 1:09:07 there should be some games in Bridgeport. You know what I mean? I know. You know what we should do is we should make it into one of those 1:09:12 carnivals with the with the [ __ ] rid that falls and all that. Yeah, 1:09:18 we don’t need like the the Tilta whirl or anything. We just need all the games. We need all the games. We need we need 1:09:25 carney that offering us uh big stuffed animals if we can hit enough uh little 1:09:32 clowns with pellets. Like that’s that’s the that’s what Lot G needs to be. It needs to be like a little carnival. 1:09:38 And if I can get fried Twinkies there, even better. Then we’re on go. 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It’s a it’s a good uh question because we come at it from a few different angles. And when you look at 47 games 1:12:02 left for a fiveman rotation. Let’s just assume right now for purposes of the discussion that they’re going to stick with a fiveman rotation. I think that 1:12:08 they probably will for all intents and purposes. Um, that’s nine starts each roughly. Couple guys will get 10 starts 1:12:15 there. And so that is like almost a third of a normal starter hall. Nor 1:12:20 normal starter starts a full season worth of games is 32 starts basically. And so when you start looking at Johnny 1:12:27 Cannon, Johnny Cannon last year very decent uh breakout guy. You weren’t 1:12:33 expecting much of him. came up, struggled quite a bit, went back down to Charlotte, worked on a few things, came 1:12:40 up, had a three uh inning save, and then was very nice down the stretch and and 1:12:46 solidified his spot coming into 2025, there was no absolutely no question that he was going to be there uh you know, in 1:12:52 the White Sox rotation. When you look at his his 2025 numbers, though, you have an RA and FIP that are above five and 1:13:00 it’s just been a struggle uh the entire way. you knew the strikeouts weren’t going to be there. And even the the walks, he has gotten those got back 1:13:07 down. Early in the season, he was walking quite a bit, but the walks have, you know, so getting the walks down is 1:13:13 good. They’re just hitting him hard. Uh trees, I’m going to pull up his Baseball Savant page. And for those of you that 1:13:19 don’t uh visit Baseball Savant much, when you look at these charts that someone shows you, if there’s a bunch of 1:13:25 blue [ __ ] on there, that’s bad. Blue bad, red, good. That’s how you kind of 1:13:31 read these charts. And when you start looking at everything that’s on here, you know, he’s not a big VO guy, but 1:13:37 you’re missing out on the chase and the whiff. And the thing that he was excelling at last year, uh, Treezy, he 1:13:43 was in the 70th percentile of hard hit percentage, meaning no one was really squaring the guy up. And this year, he’s 1:13:48 in the 17th percentile, which means he’s doing terribly. They’re they’re hitting 1:13:53 the [ __ ] out of him. When you kind of look at his stuff individually, what you end up seeing is that 1:14:00 everything is kind of playing down a little bit. And this is what happens. This is how how delicate a fourth, fifth 1:14:08 starter life is where if your stuff is playing up, some days you look like gang 1:14:13 busters. When the stuff plays down even a little tiny bit, Treezy, then you start looking like a guy who maybe 1:14:19 shouldn’t even be on the roster. And of all the pitches that are hurting him the most, it’s the sinker because the sinker 1:14:24 was the thing that was helping him last year. Yes, you can get a decent batting average off of the sinker because it’s going to be put in play a lot, but 1:14:31 they’re pounding into the ground and you’re not going to be able to slug it too hard. This year, the sinker, as 1:14:36 you’ve been in dire straits, it’s getting absolutely clobbered. It has a, you know, it’s it’s creating that above 1:14:41 average hard hit percentage because people are getting to it. he’s not getting it down enough and and getting 1:14:47 these people to pound the ball baseball into the ground. And so you kind of get in this situation and and I’ve covered 1:14:53 it a little bit when I have my uh my image up of what I think the core should be. I I’ve put I put this up basically 1:14:59 every month and I I did one for July recently and I have a slot for starting pitcher that has Cannon, Davis Martin, 1:15:05 and Shawn Burke all together in it because I think one of these guys will pop out of this and end up becoming a 1:15:11 guy who’s a starting pitcher on the White Socks going forward. I just can’t know who it is right now. And if we were 1:15:16 looking at it today, Theresy, I would assume Jonathan Cannon’s probably not one of the ones. He’s not He’s not that guy right now. 1:15:22 You You gotta You got to think that if if you’re looking at his long-term 1:15:28 outlook now, is more of, hey, he’s got some options left. I think he’s got option this year and next year. So, 1:15:34 they’ll probably send him down at some point this year. They can’t keep trottting him out, especially if Martine 1:15:40 Perez comes back, right? like he’s probably the odd man out at this point and then next year you still have that 1:15:46 option. Right. Right. Like so that means that let’s say just you just put him at at 1:15:53 AAA and you let him or even double A depending on how many guys you got 1:15:58 because there’s guys coming back. You put him out there and like if he pitches 1:16:03 well and if you need a guy well you’re not picking from the bottom of the barrel to like oh my god who are we 1:16:10 gonna put out here? You don’t sign Clev next year. That’s right. You don’t have to sign 1:16:16 Thor, who you cut in in two weeks. So, you’re like, “Get the [ __ ] out of here. We have no interest in you.” You can just use Jonathan Cannon as one 1:16:22 of those guys. And I think there’ll be there’s a there’s probably a couple of those guys in this mishmash of of what’s 1:16:29 left. And like with the exception of Aaron Savali in this list and and Shane 1:16:34 Smith obviously because of the rule five status, like these guys have options. I don’t think I think Davis Martins will carry over to 1:16:41 next year. So like everybody in this should have options next year. Yeah. And that’s I think that’s one of 1:16:47 the things that is an advantage of the gets build currently is that you have mobility with a lot of these players. 1:16:52 And even if they’re a player that’s currently part of it and you’re like, “Okay, this guy’s fine. He’s not, you 1:16:58 know, he’s not hurting anything. He’s not upsetting the apple cart. He can be moved out for something better should it 1:17:03 come and you still have the control of him.” I put this out there a while ago and someone reminded me of it the other day. I said beef, you said step one 1:17:10 forgets was gutting the the roster of trash, getting rid of all the guy and getting useful players in all those 1:17:16 spots. And they’ve kind of mostly done it. The 40man has a little bit of a dead weight, but not a lot. They’ve kind of 1:17:22 gotten to the point where they can kind of use all the pieces. Step two is replacing those okay options with better 1:17:28 ones. And that’s where I worry about Jonathan Cannon in that pursuit. And and Tracy, we were talking about a little 1:17:33 bit before the show, not to look forward to 2026 just yet because uh we got to 1:17:39 deal with 2025 and we’re going to work to that conclusion as we talk through all these options. But in 2026, you’re 1:17:45 going to get back as John Cardi mentions. Uh Mason Adams 2026 with Free Families. Tadito mentions Drew Thorp is 1:17:52 back next season too, right? Uh Kai Bush is is going to be back next season too. Whether you liked him or didn’t like him, I wasn’t a big fan, but more more 1:17:59 depth right there. You’ve got some guys in in AAA and doubleA that might be beating down the door as well. So you 1:18:04 have a you got Schultz, you got you got Hagen, but also I don’t want to leave Gats off 1:18:10 the hook next year for like, hey, this veteran’s out there and he’s going to be 1:18:16 way below market value. Pick that [ __ ] up. Go get him. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. 1:18:22 No, but but they should in a it’s a good situation to deal from Treezy because they can pick their spots 1:18:29 with regards to that with a team that’s on its way up, but not quite there yet. Not in the playoffs and with what what I 1:18:36 would consider actual depth. People say depth just because you got names, but I think you have actual people that are 1:18:41 major league pitchers to varying degrees laying around here. I’d still think Jonathan Cannon is one of them, even 1:18:46 though he seems to be the low man in the totem pole right now. But here’s the problem with Jonathan Cannon in this in 1:18:51 this pursuit is that a lot of guys you could look at. So Shawn Burke is an 1:18:58 example. Let’s say Shawn Burke we just don’t feel is working out, right? Yeah. Shawn Burke’s got enough strikeout in 1:19:04 him that you might be able to go look like kind of close your eyes and squint a 1:19:10 little bit. Okay, I can make him into a reliever. Yeah, I don’t I don’t think Canon fits his 1:19:18 reliever. Long reliever maybe, but like how you don’t they’re not useful. 1:19:23 They’re not that useful. Like Mike Vassel is like I was saying we got a good one already. 1:19:29 Like one one of the better ones we’ve ever had here. Yeah. And like but even so, how much value can 1:19:36 you get out of a guy like that? Especially if you’re starting to get good. Like if they’re actually trying to turn a corner, like your longer lever 1:19:44 should just be a guy. Like you should just be just be some guy that’s going to eat innings because he’s only going to 1:19:49 play when the worst shit’s happen. Exactly. Either up up five or down five. That those are the times that guy’s 1:19:55 going to be in there and that’s generally the case. Now Teresa, I guess I have a question for you here and I let me preface this with some stats. 1:20:01 Jonathan Cannon uh threw 124 in the third innings last year in the majors. He also threw 37 and 2/3 in the minors 1:20:08 for a whopping 162 innings pitched in 2024. So, we know that he’s he’s absolutely fully 1:20:14 stretched out. I can bring the graphic back up here to see uh his innings so far this year. And his innings are 96. 1:20:21 So, he there’s a lot of room left in there. My question for you is this, and you you’re pretty borderline on whether 1:20:27 or not he even stays in this rotation in two weeks when we get Martine Perez back. But given his durability, 1:20:34 would you just say, “Look, you’ve got the spot for the next 6 weeks and you’re pitching for your [ __ ] life in 2026, 1:20:40 you’re pitching for your rotation spot, or would you be willing to go in a different direction regardless just 1:20:45 because of how ineffective he’s been of recent vintage?” So, a let’s go a couple different directions. Let’s talk through 1:20:51 it and think about some options cuz I don’t think I’m going to be right about any of this [ __ ] right? Like we 1:20:57 Right. But we should be looking at all the different options that they have. And this is something I was going to talk about when we got to Burke and and 1:21:02 Smith, but the Socks bullpen is weird right now. The Socks bullpen has four lefties. 1:21:10 It’s very weird. Right. And and a couple and both Tylers, you could get multi innings out of both Tylers. 1:21:15 You sure can. That’s correct. So, like I don’t see like a reason why we don’t see 1:21:20 Tyler Alexander start some games in front of these guys. Whoever’s struggling and like Socks Optimist has 1:21:26 been all over let’s get some some openers in there. But why not have Tyler Alexander go 1:21:32 three innings and then have Jonathan Cannon pick it up from there. So Jonathan Cannon only goes three or four 1:21:38 like we’re already well into the game, right? You’re not asking as much of him, right? and you’re you’re not burning a 1:21:46 guy in that game, right? So, I think that that’s that’s one one way to go. 1:21:51 One way to do it. Okay. Martine Perez, we already talked about that’s another option. But then you just 1:21:58 traded for Duncan Dav. Now, I don’t know how much that was just Curtis me is what 1:22:04 they wanted and we’ll take whatever else they’re going to give us throw in. Yeah. 1:22:09 But he’s 26 basically. He’s like almost 26. Yep. What What kind of utility are you going 1:22:15 to get out of this guy? Like, shouldn’t you try and see what this is? 1:22:20 Shouldn’t you give it a little bit of a look? And so, I think that there’s also an option of like you could use a guy 1:22:27 like that. I don’t know if they’re I think they’re kind of done with Owen White. I mean, they brought him up and didn’t even pitch him. So, like I I 1:22:33 think he’s just kind of a on the roster at this point, you know, just a break glass kind of guy. But they just traded 1:22:40 for Duncan. Like does he does he deserve a look in this 1:22:46 rotation or do you spend the rest of the year in the minors with him and then see 1:22:51 okay what do we get what are we looking at next year? But I think he’s he’s in a much worse position to try and 1:22:56 get innings sl next year right as all these guys come back and you potentially sign some guys who are 1:23:02 out there. So you want to get a look at him this year. So there’s a lot of different ways you could go with this. Um, very few of 1:23:08 them keep Jonathan Cannon in the rotation in my opinion. Um, but we’ll get to the other guys in a minute. But 1:23:15 your thoughts on that beef, where would you go with this? You know what? For me, I think I probably would ride Johnny Cannon the 1:23:21 rest of the way. I I mean, assuming there’s no injury or or nothing else, if just ineffectiveness, I would let him 1:23:27 try to work it out right now because I think what we have on our side here is that he’s a guy who could pitch all 1:23:32 these innings. Should we let’s say we’re let’s say we’re g him five innings per start and nine starts and get 40 not 1:23:39 saying he would be effective enough but let’s say 45 innings more that does not plunge him far into you know unseen 1:23:46 territory for him he pitched this much last year he’s stretched out like this he’s one of the few guys along with 1:23:52 Aaron Savali who has pitched enough where it’s like this is not a big deal this will be fine for them no worries 1:23:58 let him throw it out there secondarily I think that he’s been a guy in his early career here that has had to make 1:24:04 adjustments and has actually [ __ ] made them and and seen good things happen. So, he’s been brutal like you 1:24:11 mentioned trees. The last three starts been terrible, but even the season worth of work is below average. It’s we need 1:24:17 better than that. But, I would love to see what he if he can turn it around the asset of the season or figure out what 1:24:23 there is out there that needs to be worked on. So for me, like as bad as he’s been, as much as I want to see the 1:24:28 White Sox win as many games as possible, definitely over at least uh 50 or over, 1:24:34 I think I would probably stick with him at this juncture, just given the fragility of all the rest of it and 1:24:39 saying like, look, your best utility to us right now is that you’re going to take the ball every 5 days and we have 1:24:45 no worries about you. You’ve graduated to the level that you can pitch enough possible. And and it is a weird spot 1:24:50 because as you mentioned like if you were going for wins right now he would not be in the rotation. You would send his ass to AAA and you would figure out 1:24:57 something else. Oh yeah. Even if it was just a Tyler Alexander Mike Vassel bullpen game his ass would 1:25:02 be in Triple A almost 100%. Right. Well I mean I think that’s the thing though, right? Because Martine Perez is 1:25:09 going to come back and what are we going to do? So, let’s get on to some other guys here because 1:25:14 you also, you know, we want to know how far are they going to push Shane Smith and Shawn Burke because those guys have 1:25:21 not had a lot of innings. And so, correct, how much more are you going to push on 1:25:26 those guys to to start and keep getting five, six innings a game? So, be where 1:25:32 where you at on that? Let’s hit Shawn Burke first. So, let me pull up his uh baseball savant page. So, he actually does have a little bit of 1:25:38 red, although not very much. He has uh he’s read an average exit velocity and that extension. 1:25:44 I assume extension is similar to all the the stuff we heard about uh Irarte and that he’s very flexible and can get can 1:25:50 get can himself 1:25:55 Marilyn Manson. All right, that’s that’s your trio right there. So, but I think um Jonathan Cannon being as as rough as 1:26:03 he’s been is hiding some of the bumpiness of Shawn Burke. Now, Shawn Burke has been better since that first 1:26:08 month. He had a great start in opening day, but after that he was brutal and they they attributed a lot of it to him 1:26:14 getting hit with the line drive in the opening day game and then him like shaking it off and being fine, but 1:26:20 having like four or five kind of bad starts after that. He hasn’t been great, but he’s been good enough in his 1:26:25 remaining starts there. The only issue here is uh Trezy, he’s already in in 1:26:31 unfound territory. He’s at 110 and two/3 innings. And if he makes the nine or 10 starts remaining left, that’s going to 1:26:38 put him at 150. He’s he’s never pitched above where he’s at currently right now. 1:26:43 And so the question is, do you just like press this guy and say, “Look, you’re you know, you’re 66, you’re 240, you’re 1:26:49 25 [ __ ] years old, start pitching for your career, or do you pull back on a guy like this guy and say, “Look, all 1:26:56 right, you’ve given us a lot. We might we might send you on a fake IIL and and give you a little coverage once Martin 1:27:02 Perez is back and and and see what happens. That a point. Jackie, what do you think? 1:27:08 Jackie says Shawn Burke has been taking his gins singing. #extension. Absolutely. What are you going to it 1:27:14 there on Sean Burke? I I mean they like Burke obviously. They made him the opening day starter. 1:27:20 Started opening day. That’s right. Right. Like so they like something about this guy. I think you reward him with 1:27:25 hey, pitch as much as you can. Uh, show us show the league what you’ve 1:27:30 got. Show us what you’ve got. I I think that it’s totally worth it to to see that. I do agree. Uh, we can do things 1:27:38 to limit those innings, right? You could use openers. You could just pull him earlier, right? If he’s having a [ __ ] 1:27:45 game, like don’t don’t let him ride it out, right? Like we’ve seen that with Venable. Venable’s been good about that 1:27:50 where it’s like this guy’s having a tough game, but like let’s have him ride it out and see what see what happens, right? and and some of 1:27:56 these guys have had like just a bad inning and then they still pitch six innings and it’s you know it looks a lot 1:28:02 better by the time it’s it’s done right so I think maybe in those situations 1:28:07 down the stretch you just pull them early right we saw that with Canon yesterday although holy [ __ ] 1:28:13 that could have they pulled them even earlier they might have won that game that that wasn’t going to get better um 1:28:21 but yeah I I think I think you do you do run with them I also think though like 1:28:27 there are ways to hide these guys a little bit, right? Like uh you know 1:28:34 Burke can definitely get sent down for a minute, right? And and and then come 1:28:40 back up or just fake Iel [ __ ] just the fake IIL, you know? Yeah. I don’t know if Well, they haven’t 1:28:45 burned an option with him yet. So like Yeah. Yeah. So you want to preserve the options if you can a lot of these guys 1:28:50 like like the IIL they sent Shane Smith on with an ankle. Okay. Maybe his ankle was 1:28:56 barking, but he pitched in the goddamn All-Star game a day, you know, a day before. It’s like, “Oh, he’s going on the I 1:29:01 Okay. Yeah, I I believe you, but I don’t believe you. Come on, let’s go.” You know? Yeah. So, so do something like 1:29:06 that with Burke and maybe have him miss, you know, a couple starts and in that 1:29:12 time, you know, bring up a different reliever, you know, bring up, you know, 1:29:17 let Martine Perez come back, let uh, you know, when when Dan Alvilla comes back, 1:29:23 you know, that that’s the that’s the spot that he’s using. And I I think there’s a lot of ways to get creative 1:29:29 and say we’re going to make our our roster unbalanced for a couple days 1:29:34 while this guy is either on the IIL or or he’s he’s down in the minors and 1:29:41 just hide a couple starts here and there down the down the stretch and you and a guy gets seven starts instead of nine or 1:29:47 six starts instead of nine. I think that that’s a easy way to just preserve these 1:29:53 guys but still give them a lot of run down the end. Well, that that actually brings up a 1:29:58 question uh treason. I don’t think there’s I don’t think there’s a ton of science or at least the science isn’t well known to all of us. The White Sox 1:30:05 last year took Garrett Crochet and they they hamstrung him down the stretch and they had these short starts going 1:30:11 whatever so he make the certain amount of starts whatever. But at the age these guys are and Crochet 2 is older and he’s 1:30:18 big and strong and his built I mean like you look at you look at Shawn Burke he’s 66 240. Yeah he’s he had some injury 1:30:25 issues but they also rushed him the [ __ ] all the way up. I mean like it’s not like he had a long N minor league career 1:30:31 either. You wonder how much is just like voodoo and like he’d be totally fine 1:30:36 making these next n next nine starts no problem. And yeah maybe you don’t maybe don’t shove him into 110 pitches at all. 1:30:42 Maybe you say, “Okay, we’re going to back you off kind of in the 85 to 95 range, and you’re not going to get to 1:30:47 100 pitches ever in this situation, but you’re going to make all your starts, and you’ll pitch four to six innings, 1:30:52 however many.” I there doesn’t seem to be hard science right now as to like what to do in these spots. 1:30:58 I’ll I’ll also say that like I’ll also say that like if if Burke if if they started going like we’re only going to 1:31:04 pitch him 85 to 90 pitches per game as opposed to 100. 1:31:11 97 and a half% of people watching the game would not [ __ ] notice. With 1:31:16 Garrick Crochet, it’s very noticeable because he is the best pitcher by a mile on your staff. 1:31:23 Everyone’s been waiting for that day and then Garrett Crochet throws 60 pitches. And you’re like, “What the [ __ ] How 1:31:28 dare you do this, D?” But that was a different thing, too, because they were strictly protecting from a catastrophic 1:31:35 injury. That was it. They knew they were trading him. There was no like, “Oh, we want you in this rotation forever.” It 1:31:41 was, “We want to send your ass somewhere and get a bunch of prospects here.” Way different situation. I think they may 1:31:46 treat it different, but I’m not sure how different they’ll treat. So, be let me let me throw this at you 1:31:51 because I think that this this kind of touches on it, too. We we’ve talked a lot in this in this conversation about 1:31:58 how many different guys they have that’ll be involved next year, right? Yep. 1:32:04 And you look then too like they’ve done well going into free agency or even 1:32:10 picking up off the street or doing low-level trades for pitchers or starting pitchers. 1:32:17 Why wouldn’t you just have these guys pitch all the way to the end and be like, well, you know, if if they get 1:32:23 hurt, that sucks, but I feel like we have the depth to to cover that. 1:32:28 We got a guy on deck right now. But if they don’t get hurt, we know that this guy next year, 1:32:36 we know that Shawn Burke can throw 170 innings. Yeah, correct. That’s right. 1:32:41 Like, why not find that out, right? Like, so I think there’s that angle to it. And I think that there’s, you know, 1:32:48 we talked about the high-risisk, highreward friend. You know, let’s treat some of these situations the same, 1:32:54 right? Like, okay, it’s riskier. It’s riskier to say Shane Smith and Shawn Burke are going to get a lot of innings 1:33:00 down the end. But if Shane Smith is [ __ ] awesome down the end, the reward 1:33:06 is that like next year that guy is your number three minimum, 1:33:11 right? Right. And so like I think that that’s that’s a different 1:33:17 way that we should look at it. So let’s look at it overall. Beef, let’s look at it. What does this lineup like the the 1:33:24 starting rotation look like down the stretch last 47 games? Who who are your 1:33:30 five guys? What are you doing? How are you mixing and matching? I mean, as far as I’m concerned right 1:33:36 now, I am I am sticking 100% with Jonathan Cannon. So he is definitely in the group. I agree with your your 1:33:42 premise on the high-risisk hybrid board with Shawn Burke. So, he is definitely uh part of this as well. Erin Cavali, I 1:33:50 like Aaron Seal. I I don’t think I’d move him out of there. No problem. Davis Martin is fine. We have We weren’t even 1:33:55 planning to cover Davis Martin because we’re the thought was he’s going to be here. So, where everything meets up at is with 1:34:02 Martine Perez coming off the IIL in a couple weeks and the favorite son, the 1:34:08 rule five pick, Shane Smith. Now, Shane Smith also uh as of today uh as he 1:34:14 crossed the innings pitched, he went up to 96 innings. He has crossed into uncharted territory. He’s never pitched 1:34:19 this much in his entire [ __ ] life. Shane Smith’s been the best pitcher on the staff. Uh don’t look at the baseline 1:34:25 numbers of erra, etc. Whatever. Uh you can see all the red on his page when you 1:34:30 look at it on his baseball, which we have up on the YouTube page right now. This is your best guy. Now, what what’s 1:34:36 interesting about uh Shane Smith Trezy? so much [ __ ] on the change up on the on 1:34:42 pitching ninja and all these highlights and all this [ __ ] And the change up is a good pitch. It’s two positive run 1:34:49 values. Uh as far as pitch, his four seamer though. Bren Buck throws it 44% 1:34:54 of the time, nine runs above average. That is a [ __ ] killer pitch. And when your four seamer is that good, that 1:35:01 means you’re you are a [ __ ] guy. And so the one guy in the entire rotation here that we should be like planning 1:35:09 hard for the future about is Shane Smith. He’s he’s the one and we’ve known it since [ __ ] two weeks into the 1:35:15 season. We’re like we were all looking you don’t need any of these stats. You watch the guy pitch and you’re like that’s the guy I know that that’s a guy 1:35:22 right there and we’ve known it. He went through rough patch, right? He’s a guy who he was probably gassed. I mean the 1:35:27 guy hadn’t pitched as much in his entire life. Amped up. Went to the All-Star game. all this [ __ ] today. He went out 1:35:33 there and absolutely dominated Drezy. Five innings, four hits. He made one mistake and actually it wasn’t even that 1:35:38 bad a mistake. Randy Rosino went low and got a curveball and yanked it out of the ballpark for the only two runs. He had 1:35:43 eight cakes. Okay, where the rubber meets the road is do I want to press Shane Smith for the last six weeks and 1:35:51 have him make nine starts or do I want to try to back him off and do something there? And that’s the spot where I get 1:35:58 to where I’m unsure. I know Martine Perez is gonna come back and be available and make starts and maybe that 1:36:04 does push you to a six-man rotation, which I don’t love. I I’d rather keep these guys in the normal uh work week. 1:36:10 Uh maybe it allows you to get one of these guys off their feet. Shane Burks uh Shane Burke hasn’t gotten a fake Iel 1:36:16 stint yet. Shane Smith has. Um, if I’m opting, I’ i’d love to see Shane Smith just finish out the season here and let 1:36:23 one of the other guys, you know, uh, sit down for a while, aluminine press, but 1:36:28 he’s the one where there’s there’s some risk because he looks like he has the star potential compared to the rest of 1:36:33 the group. Yeah, I I want to see Shane Smith on every five days. I want to see what it 1:36:40 is. Let’s let’s find out what that is. Um I I don’t need Jonathan Cannon in 1:36:49 this rotation. I’m fine if if that’s what they choose to do. Yeah. Um, but you got six guys here and 1:36:56 I I think Jonathan Ganon just seems seems like the odd man out. And maybe maybe what you do is Jonathan Cannon 1:37:04 comes up every once in a while and makes a makes a start or or comes back in and 1:37:10 and goes three innings or something and then you send him back down like you 1:37:15 still get him some some pro reps. Or maybe you just say, “Hey, this ain’t 1:37:21 working. We’re going to send you down so you could work on the stuff without getting bashed around. 1:37:27 Right. Right. These are the adjustments we want you to make and maybe get some starts at the end of the season. Maybe when 1:37:32 rosters expand and we do go six-man rotation and Cannon’s back, that’s the 1:37:38 that’s the one guy that’s that’s in there as the extra guy. Well, Teres, here’s what I wonder. I I 1:37:44 like your premise here, but here’s what I wonder about that specific thing is like how much is preserving the option 1:37:50 worth. It might not be worth that much to preserve it, but you’re only 6 weeks left. He hasn’t been optioned to the 1:37:55 miners this year. So, you could can hold that option if you want to. Then I was going to say, I wonder if you 1:38:01 just [ __ ] with it and say when when the roster expands, you just kind of shove him out of the rotation. You you move 1:38:07 him to long work or whatever the [ __ ] and bring up another reliever and then like that’s fine. you end the season as is 1:38:13 and don’t send them down kind of thing. The other thing you could do is you could you could I him 1:38:18 and then you can rehab him in the minors without using the option. Correct. Yes. And get those starts that 1:38:24 you wanted to get that right. That is definitely manipulating his options. He could sue you, but I I don’t 1:38:31 know. I think this is his best chance to be uh I can’t 1:38:37 do a grievance, but like I I think it is his best place to to have a chance at starting. So, 1:38:43 I don’t know. I I I think that you could be creative, but I I just feel like Canon is starting to feel like the odd 1:38:49 man out. Um he really and he still does have two options, right? Like so if they did for 1:38:55 some reason option him this year instead of doing an IIL or waiting for rosters to expand and and then that’s when you 1:39:00 bring back Perez or that’s maybe you know you just move him to the pen you you push someone out into the minors 1:39:08 like there’s ways to do it but I also I don’t I don’t know how creative they’re going to feel they need to be with this 1:39:16 because of how many guys you’re getting back their ability to sign guys like I I don’t know that they’re going to be like 1:39:22 we got to get super creative to to keep Johnny Cannon’s other option. 1:39:28 Yeah, it probably shouldn’t take much work. And actually, it’s in a way it’s a good thing where you see Martine Perez is is pretty close to coming back. I 1:39:34 think he’s kind of scheduled for a few more uh thing, but at least Amazing. Let’s Let’s stop and talk about that. 1:39:40 He’s cooked. No, you’re right. You’re right. I thought he was cooked because he’s not young. No, he started out really nice. He’s 1:39:46 been a good veteran presence at the beginning of the season and then they were like he’s out 1:39:52 probably forever. Nope. I have not. It seems season ending and at that age 1:39:58 season ending when you’re kind of what Martin Perez is, you’re you’re bored on 1:40:04 like is this guy even going to be a starter when he comes back, right? And the motherfucker’s like August. I’ll 1:40:10 be back in August. Exactly. And he’s already throwing a rehab start. He was in Charlotte. We threw uh two and two/3s the other day. 1:40:17 So like it’s I mean it’s happening. It is nice that we’re getting to the finish line though. And like I thought it was 1:40:23 going to be a lot scarier than this when we got to this point. But I’m thankful that it’s not. I’m thankful that it 1:40:28 looks like we have a little optionality here. And it’s not Mike Cleven for every five days is like the the only option we 1:40:34 have. You know one thing I wanted to Oh, go ahead. How much of a how much of a king is Martine Perez to be like don’t worry 1:40:41 guys, don’t worry. That’s not You don’t got You don’t got to You don’t got to listen. You don’t got to see Clev. Well, 1:40:49 I’ll make I’ll I don’t care how well he come back. I’m coming back. I’m coming back. 1:40:55 Yeah. Exactly. Well, you you got to appreciate the balls on a guy like Martine Pres, right? He could have 1:41:01 phoned him. He could have said, “Yeah, okay. I’ll sign another one of these deals next year. I don’t care. [ __ ] it. I’m gonna make the last couple starts of 1:41:07 the year.” I I really respect that in a way. How how much of a [ __ ] do you feel like if you’re a pitcher on the team 1:41:13 that’s like, “Oh man, my my shoulder or my elbow or something. Oh, it’s not it’s just not not feeling right today.” It’s 1:41:19 like it’s like the cop in in Reservoir Dogs who got his ear cut off telling Tim 1:41:24 Roth, “Ah, I’m deformed.” And he’s Tim Roth is bleeding out from the stomach. 1:41:30 He’s bleeding to death right next to No, I absolutely love it. One thing I 1:41:36 wanted to touch on real quick before we jump out of this. I think we’re basically on the premise that it’s going to be these five guys plus Martin Perez. 1:41:43 I think you think you’re good with Jonathan Cannon not making any more of these starts. I would like to [ __ ] 1:41:48 around a little bit. I I don’t mind using his length if they want to cut down one of these guys shorter. Uh 1:41:53 specifically Shawn Burke, I’m with you. I would like to see Shane Smith make the remaining starts if they feel he’s healthy. I would like to see what it 1:41:59 looks like and I would like to get him on a path where look, you’re one of our guys. So, we need you to to extend these 1:42:05 innings here. But I look down at the uh at the DoubleA group and the White Sox have three good starting pitchers in 1:42:11 DoubleA right now. They got Shane Murphy, they got Tanner McDougall who if Tanner McDougall gets here, 1:42:17 Kay Fids is going to be all up in our [ __ ] because he knows him personally. He’s he’s friends with the family and 1:42:22 everything. I be I like that that’s the one thing that I’ll say about Tanner McDougall is that like I don’t like he’s 1:42:30 going to be when we do our trades our trades with every team I’m going to trade him 30 times 1:42:36 and I’ll be like I hope Kevin I I hope go bother that team go bother that team 1:42:45 they got him and they also have uh Riley Gowens who was part of the uh uh you 1:42:50 know the Aaron Bummer trade who MSS brought up a couple months ago was like guys crushing in double A like this is a 1:42:56 guy we should be looking at he’s 26 years old or whatever. Those guys though are all in and around 100 innings 1:43:02 pitched. They’re kind of going to finish their minor league season with 120 130 1:43:08 you know somewhere in that range. And so they’re going to be nicely stretched out but I don’t know if you’re if you’re going to like be rushing to get any of 1:43:14 them to the majors right here. But again to the the point of the depth those 1:43:19 three guys are going to be in play next year. Noah Schulz is in play. Uh Drew Thorp, Kai Bush, Mason Adams. You’re 1:43:27 you’re kind of running a lot of starting pitchers that are close right outside of 1:43:33 this thing. And so these guys, as much as the season is over in theory, all 1:43:39 these guys in this rotation got to be pitching for the Lions, man. This is uh the guy’s coming for you, you know? 1:43:44 Yeah. And no one’s no one’s blowing it out of the water other than Shane Smith, like where you’re like, “Oh, this is a guy. this looks like a guy. Like 1:43:52 there’s there’s just a ton of options for people to come in and and get them 1:43:58 get them the [ __ ] out of there for sure. No, this is my this is my rotation spot. So, 1:44:04 one thing I like and this is something beef it’s funny when we started this podcast was that six years ago or 1:44:11 something? I don’t know. It was like 2017 2018 something like that. Y um 1:44:17 one of the things we kept harping on like at the very beginning was if you’re 1:44:22 going to pitch in if you’re going to have a major league team, a good major league team, minimum seven starters, you 1:44:29 need a minimum of seven starters. Correct. Like you can’t have less. You should have more. You should have more. 1:44:36 Like and they’re trending towards that. I just say they’re going to open 2026 1:44:41 where you could probably confidently say they’re going to sign somebody. So, so they’ll replace Savali. So, you’re going 1:44:47 to confidently say they’ve got six or seven that are legitimate major league pitchers. You might not love Jonathan 1:44:52 Cannon, but he’s he’s racked up starts. He’s been a like slightly below average 1:44:58 major league pitcher for that period. So, yeah. And that that guy you do not mind 1:45:03 having when all of a sudden someone’s got a dead arm or someone’s shoulder 1:45:09 hurts. Idle stints are a lot more easy to take in when when you have a guy like 1:45:15 that just readily available. Yep. 100%. Unlike right now, right? Like imagine 1:45:22 imagine if one of these guys got hurt. Like imagine if Martine Perez was not coming back. 1:45:27 This conversation that we just had goes way different. It’s like, man, 1:45:33 Duncan Davitt, Owen White, Mike Cleger, or rush Noah Schultz up. That’s a terrible 1:45:40 idea. Let’s do that. Or Mike Vassel and and Tyler Alexander tag team every every five days or you 1:45:47 can’t use him the other days, you know, into a starter. And now you you have to bring up someone from the the miners to 1:45:52 be in the pen, something way riskier. I’ve seen that question out there about Vassel uh trees, like does he deserve a 1:45:59 shot at being in the rotation? And I think the the resounding answer is yes, but I saw I saw Socks Optimus tweet uh 1:46:07 you know, yes, he’s earned his chance, but I just love the [ __ ] way they use him right now. Why can’t we just keep using them like this? And I kind of 1:46:13 thought the same thing. It’s like he’s a jack of all trades. Just like we need someone get this key out or whatever the 1:46:19 [ __ ] Just throw Mike in there. We don’t care. It’s pouring rain. [ __ ] throw Mike out there. He’ll get the out. Oh, we need three innings right now. Mike 1:46:25 will go get those three innings. Like having a guy like that is so [ __ ] valuable and so as a fan you’re like, 1:46:31 “Oh, he’s coming in the game. I trust that guy to [ __ ] get us out of this bullshit.” You know, like it’s nice to have. 1:46:36 He was He was available for a reason. It wasn’t working as a start. 1:46:42 Yeah, correct. This This works. This works. And he’s crazy as [ __ ] Maybe like this 1:46:49 is like, you know what? You know, sometimes you just look and go, I need a 1:46:54 [ __ ] crazy guy to do this. And it’s never it’s never a normal task. 1:47:01 Like, you never go like, “Oh, man. You know, I I I need someone to to file all 1:47:06 these things. I I need a crazy guy.” No, you don’t need a crazy guy for that. But you’re like, “I need a guy to wash the 1:47:12 windows at the top of this building. I need a crazy [ __ ] I need a crazy motherfucker.” That’s Mike Vassel. 1:47:21 possible lot as a in life as as an MLB player and he could like you could make 1:47:26 a career out of being that guy for sure. Absolutely. I should well paid to be 1:47:32 that guy. So I I’m with Optimist. I’m with you here. I I kind of like Vassel 1:47:38 being this guy. Maybe this is this is this is his fit. Don’t ruin his fit. 1:47:43 Barry Bagodon says if if you think you’re going to give him a chance in rotation, now is the time to do it. I agree. So, if they if they did have an 1:47:49 injury, if it was in a spot where you’re like, “Okay, Perez is coming back and we have an injury here, and hopefully they don’t have an injury, but I would give 1:47:56 him his shot. I would say, look, here you go. You’re going to have five starts down the stretch or whatever, and we’ll see how it goes. We’ll we’ll be we’ll 1:48:02 five and fly you. We’re not going to kind of pressure there because he does sort of have the like, [ __ ] you 1:48:08 mentality, and throw any pitch and any count.” But I also feel like he’s he’s a guy who might only have enough stuff 1:48:13 like you mentioned, Treezy, one time through the lineup. You know, that’s basically what what he can do. And 1:48:19 that’s valuable. Look, in today’s baseball, that’s [ __ ] valuable, man. You’ll take that guy. I mean, you saw I put the graphic up there. Let me pull 1:48:25 this back up again. One second. He’s got 72 innings pitched, right? 1:48:30 Starters. He’s right behind Canon. Yeah. He’s going to get to 90, right? He’s 1:48:36 going to get to 90 innings basically out of the bullpen, which is crazy in this this day and age of baseball. And they could have used up a little bit a little 1:48:43 bit more to have them like have like five saves too. Correct. Yes. 1:48:49 They [ __ ] throw one more inning stage. Yeah, absolutely. They have. No question. 1:48:55 All right, Beef. Let’s switch topics. Let’s get off to pitching. Let’s get to a guy, a guy who has been 1:49:03 in White Sox Twitter, a volatile subject for many years now. 1:49:09 For sure. to the point where I’m surprised how young he is. And that’s Lenin Sosa. 1:49:16 Lenin Sosa is having a good hitting year. And I I say good because 1:49:23 he’s not having a great hitting year. He’s having a great hitting year for Lenin Sosa. 1:49:29 Correct. But he’s having a good hitting year. And that goes with beef some bad defense. 1:49:36 All right. Now, the guy can play multiple positions, but he cannot play them well. 1:49:42 It’s also true. In only 94 innings at first base, he has a negative one defensive run save. Third 1:49:50 base, he’s not played enough to really have anything. Like 18 innings or something like that. 1:49:55 Really small amount this year, but he has been bad there before, so don’t worry. Uh, and then at second base, he’s 1:50:01 had 610 innings at second base. That’s where he’s played the most this year. -6 defensive run save. And now we all 1:50:10 know Lenin. We all know Lenin. Most of the time it 1:50:15 looks pretty normal and pretty good and then every once in a while he goes, “You 1:50:20 know what? I’m just going to throw this wherever the [ __ ] I want.” Or he’s playing first and you’re like, 1:50:27 “Hey Lane, you want to cover first? Do you want to put your foot on the bag? I I’m going to be near first base. 1:50:35 So, while he is technically a utility player, he’s certainly not a a defensive 1:50:42 option, right? Really? And now look, let’s look at his his his hitting and beef. I don’t know if you 1:50:47 have any graphics for for these. I do. Yeah. So, so one thing I wanted to follow up though on when you’re talking about the defense a little bit, you 1:50:53 know, ounce above average is a little more forgiving at second base. Trees has him only as negative one. But one of the 1:50:58 things you have to take into account as well is, you know, the defensive metrics don’t necessarily cover absolutely 1:51:04 everything. And so there’s so many. So even if you believe outs above average and say look at he’s basically an average defender at second base and and 1:51:11 that’s totally fine. You’re kind of missing out on all the stuff he does that is just like negative base play 1:51:18 baseball IQ [ __ ] Like the other day there was a ground ball to short and I I 1:51:23 forget who was playing short. I was Madroth or or Montgomery. They were looking to throw to him at second for 1:51:28 the force he never covered. And so they had to quick rush throw it to first. They didn’t get there in time. There it 1:51:34 was the popup that Nicoer purposefully dropped so he could dumb Lenine to run 1:51:40 from second to third and get thrown out. There’s like a lot of weird So like Lenin is a poor defender, but even if 1:51:47 you think he’s like marginal, there’s a low baseball IQ here uh regarding this. 1:51:52 Now, when you look at uh his baseball savant page, there’s quite a bit of red 1:51:58 on the hitting tresezy and and a lot of this stuff is the batting average, the 1:52:03 slug, the exit vo’s above average. Um launch angle sweet spot percentage is 1:52:08 way above average, like phenomenal actually squaring up with all this 1:52:14 stuff. It looks like a a a batting average merchant with power with some 1:52:19 lift. Definitely a usable player. I remember at the beginning I talked about 1:52:24 it in the last segment thinking about rosters in total, but think about hitters. I I I told you guys I was like, 1:52:31 just get me a bunch of guys that are league averageish hitters and put them 1:52:36 on the roster and we’ll figure out where they sit. And Lenin Sosa by golly, he has a going into today has 1:52:44 a 107 WRC plus. And when you look at his splits, this is what’s even more 1:52:50 interesting about Lenin. When you pull the splits, you think, okay, well, he’s a rever. 1:52:55 Yeah. Yeah. He’s a he’s a reverse splits guy. When you think, okay, there’s a righty and 1:53:01 he’s and he and he’s coming out of nowhere and he’s pounding. He’s and he’s shot back above uh league average as a 1:53:07 hitter and he never walks. He’s got a 3% walk rate. You think, okay, well, he’s probably mashing lefties, getting 1:53:12 matchups, whatever. No, he’s not. He ain’t hitting lefties at all, but he’s got almost an 800 ops against 1:53:18 right-handed pitching, which the White Sox desperately [ __ ] need. They don’t hit right-handed pitching that well as a 1:53:25 group. And we’ve seen Luis Robert go through some terrible fits where he’s pl he’s below 600 OPS against right-handed 1:53:33 pitching. So, as an antidote, you kind of need a hitter like this on the 1:53:38 roster, a hitterish guy who comes through. When you look at this current team, and it’s been a mishmash, and you 1:53:43 get it, guys not playing full-time, guys just coming up and graduating are 1:53:48 rookies, Lenin having just a not Lenine, Luis Robert having a terrible year. 1:53:54 Andrew Benendi with injuries and struggling, etc. Lenin is second in batting average out of this group. He’s 1:54:00 second in RBI’s. He’s tied for second in home runs. He’s fourth in runs scored. 1:54:05 He’s producing Drezy. I in my mind, he’s 2018 Daniel Pala. So, can I tell you 1:54:11 something that I saw that I was I was looking at Lenine’s stats and I was, you 1:54:16 know, when you when you see someone doing better, you want to look at what specifically are they doing different 1:54:24 than when they were than when they were playing poorly, right? And Lenin has always had some good power. He’s always, 1:54:29 you know, he’s always been a guy that like you’re like, “Oh, man. It feels like it should be good.” 1:54:36 He only has a 30% ground ball rate this year. Now, normally normally I would 1:54:43 just go this is like some wild variance and it’s probably going to come back and 1:54:50 then it’s going to suck, right? Um, and maybe that’s the case, but maybe I 1:54:57 want to believe, maybe it’s just me being a fan. Maybe I want to believe that Ryan Fuller has had some effect 1:55:04 here. And Marcus Tams has had some effect. And what they were preaching to 1:55:10 guys like Eloy and to Andrew Vaughn and to and to Yo Mata and others of don’t 1:55:18 beat the ground into the don’t beat the ball in the [ __ ] ground. Yep. Put it in the air. Hit line drives. 1:55:26 What if he listened? I know it’s a novel concept, 1:55:31 especially especially because as we mentioned the baseball acumen and you can see it every day. He makes 1:55:38 these crazy mistakes and you’re like what the [ __ ] But what if he got that part right? What if that part is the 1:55:43 part that he picked up and was good? And what if, you know, as he’s doing that, you know, he’s just start, you 1:55:50 know, he’s always seen the ball well, but he’s just always pressing because he’s hitting so many ground balls and 1:55:56 he’s always making outs that he’s pressing. And now when he’s not pressing, and you start to see this later in the season, 1:56:04 Lenin Sosa, and I can’t believe I’m going to say this, is taking walks. 1:56:10 It’s a 3.6% 6% walk rate for the season. For the season. Correct. But it wasn’t long ago, Beef, when me 1:56:18 and you were like, he’s at a 2% walk rate. Correct. That’s correct. And he’s had three walks in the last 1:56:24 five games. Yep. Right. And like deep counts cuz he’ll take every count to two strikes. He 1:56:30 doesn’t give a [ __ ] So there is I think there is a little bit something to he 1:56:37 has changed the way he’s hitting the ball which is good. I want to I haven’t dug enough 1:56:44 into what like what the swing trajectory is, if he’s done anything there, but 1:56:51 just those raw stats of like the ground ball rate being so different and if you look at it, so let me let me see if I if 1:56:58 I still have it up. But it it’s not a oh 1:57:03 all of a sudden thing you know like the past two years like his first year he 1:57:08 was at like a 56% but then like the past two years it’s like 38 and 39 so it’s kind of like stuck there and then this 1:57:15 year it’s down to 30. That’s a drastic change. And the difference though 1:57:22 is in fly balls. So, it feels trajectory based because it’s not just line drives, 1:57:28 right? Like line drives are almost in line with last year. Fly balls now are are significantly 1:57:34 different, which makes me feel like he’s swinging the bat differently. He’s attacking these balls differently or 1:57:40 he’s just attacking different pitches. But it doesn’t feel like he’s attacking different pitches because he swings at [ __ ] everything. So, 1:57:48 but it has to be swing related. Teres and looking at his baseball son page. I 1:57:53 looked at it uh you know before this discussion because we wanted to we wanted to truly evaluate Lenine because 1:57:58 Lenine is not really part of the new group of prospects. He’s a hold over. 1:58:04 I thought he was going to be gone. So he also wasn’t part of the original group. I think before the season we were like there’s room for Lenin on the 1:58:10 roster right now. He’s got to hit to keep himself here. He has hit. So he’s keeping himself here. 1:58:16 He is here. Here here’s the difference. Year-over-year in 2024, run value against four seamers and against 1:58:22 sliders, he was negative -7 for both. Fast forward to 2025, four seamers run 1:58:28 value is one, slider is zero. So playing those to a draw allows him to hit the 1:58:34 off speed pitches a mile and crush everything else. And so I think you’re you’re right, Drezy, in that there’s an 1:58:40 approach difference here that is allowing him to get himself. Now, I know that the the my guy Ian Escridge, who 1:58:48 can hold this over me now because I because I because we’re going to see a full season of Lenin Sosa, league average hitter. It’s going to happen 1:58:54 like this is this is happening here. And I said I didn’t I didn’t think he’d make it or whatever. And he said it always took him a certain 1:59:00 amount of time to adjust to a level. Now, this amount of time is longer than those other times, but it also is the 1:59:06 major leagues time. Exactly. Toughest level by far. And most people don’t adjust to it, 1:59:12 which was what I was thinking. But I think we’re at the point here where you know he’s a league he he’s a valuable 1:59:18 bat on some roster. Maybe he is a second division whatever the [ __ ] and so maybe 1:59:23 he’s less valuable when you got a bunch of killers in your 90 win team. But I think there’s a spot for a guy like 1:59:29 Lenin Sosa even with his lack of ability on defense to play a position. 1:59:35 Well, let’s talk about that. Where what what is his future with this team? Because the one thing that that you 1:59:41 noted earlier, Beef, that is super interesting about him when we look at the roster creation that they have right 1:59:47 now is he he does have reverse splits. 1:59:54 That’s right. So, if he hits right-handed pitchers better than left-handed pitchers, that’s 1:59:59 valuable in an infield where currently you have Miguel Vargas, Chase Maid, and 2:00:07 Curtis Me, right? Yep. And Coulson’s my guy at short, so don’t 2:00:12 [ __ ] with that. But Lenin don’t play short. Coulson’s power is is off the charts anyway, so it doesn’t He’s not in the 2:00:18 same pot with the other guys in my opinion. But do you have a problem with Lenine 2:00:24 finding spots at first, second, and third against right-handers when these 2:00:30 other guys it don’t look so good against right-handers, right? Like so it feels 2:00:37 like If you just looked at it on paper, just 2:00:43 their, you know, what-handedness they are and everything, it starts to get real hard to find a spot for Lenin, 2:00:50 right? But if you have Chase Maid, who can back up at shortstop? 2:00:55 Yep. And if another one of your utility infielders who’s Brooks Baldwin is 2:01:01 actually a super utility guy and Lenine has reverse splits, you start 2:01:08 to see an option for him to be there next year. Especially, and beef, this is 2:01:15 something that I think is is a weird reason that he could end up there is if 2:01:20 they don’t do something that forces Andrew Benitendi into the DH spot. 2:01:26 Agreed. Agreed, Teresy. Agreed. My my initial thought was he’s your everyday 2:01:32 second baseman right now in 2026. And here’s why. Look, no shade against Chase Midroth, but you can already see the 2:01:40 limitations in the profile. All right. To me, on a good team, Chase Maid is 2:01:46 your utility guy, right? I’m okay with him being infield utility guy starting kind of right now. Not only because like 2:01:54 that would work and and Sosa’s a better bath, but like him coming off the bench, he’s a good base runner. We know that. 2:02:00 So, he can come in for absolutely anyone and run the bases. He can play defense at second or short. That’s valuable, 2:02:06 too. And when he gets in those spots, he can also pinch hit for anybody and make a lot of contact. Those are valuable 2:02:11 spots to be in. You could definitely have him pinch run for Sosa in an important situation. 2:02:17 I was going to say, we’ll bring this back up. Not only not only his dumbness, but also sprint speed 31%. 2:02:23 Yeah, you like got to be that slow. Oh, he’s 210 lbs. I forgot. 2:02:29 When when Lenine when Len doubles in the eighth inning and he’s the he’s the 2:02:35 tying or go-ahad run and you look out at second base and he’s eating a [ __ ] 2:02:41 candy bar. You’re like, “Okay, maybe maybe he’s not paying. He’s got fun dip. 2:02:46 What the hell’s going on? Get get chased out there. Get out there. Well, 2:02:53 K Dog says, “Uh, the podcast might be back.” Two-hour heater. No MSS trying to sell me trinkets. We thought we’d dig 2:02:59 deep on a couple topics with no MSS. We’re going to [ __ ] around with these things, but but uh Tracy Lenine, like I 2:03:06 think he’s kind of earned a spot and and and you don’t love him. He’s an highly imperfect player, 2:03:11 but like could you see him lined up with like if you did it the right way where he wasn’t forced into lineups and spots that would 2:03:18 might be tough on him, you could see him being a real nice five days a week player that hits 20 home runs and you’re 2:03:24 like, “Wow, the White Sox got a real [ __ ] weapon right here.” Yeah. What a weird team we could have 2:03:30 next year. Right. Like I mean like we we were talking about this before, Beef. We were talking about Brooks Baldwin and we 2:03:38 were saying like it don’t seem like Brooks can hit but it does seem like he could hit and I was saying, you know, 2:03:44 like I I get like Unk vibes from him. Like Michael A. Taylor where like this 2:03:50 guy might be like he plays every outfield position and the benefit of of Brooks too is that he could play all the 2:03:55 infield or most of the infield positions. I don’t think he’s necessarily great short stop but he could play there in a pinch. I don’t 2:04:01 think I’d put him at first, but like he plays a lot of positions, correct? And he has some power. Why not be a 10 2:04:09 to, you know, 15 home run guy who hits 187 2:04:15 but plays all those different positions? Sure. Useful. Useful. That guy is still useful. That guy is useful. But like there’s just so many of 2:04:22 these like odd ducks that are like we’re looking at and we’re going like well you know this guy has this very specific he 2:04:29 was and you got like a whole roster of them with no stars like it’s it’s a like a good manager can 2:04:35 get all of that out of him. a good a good operating apparatus can get enough out of them where you’re like man they 2:04:42 won that many games with that group right there who and we’ve been we’ve been looking at trezy too from the 2:04:47 standpoint of and even in my my article about like you should trade Grant Taylor it’s from the premise of you don’t have 2:04:54 a star here there’s no I mean Luis Luis could be a star but he’s I think he 2:04:59 might have passed his his star window and maybe he’s just when he when he settles it’s probably just a good player right he’s not a star 2:05:05 but you don’t have a star But maybe you don’t need one. What if you don’t need one to get to 87 wins every year and be 2:05:11 a playoff team and be knocking on the door? I think it’s very possible. Like you got to assemble the right group. But 2:05:18 I’m not going to I’m done fretting over it. I’m done worrying that there’s no star in here because there are guys who 2:05:23 do things and they’re going to they’re going to put him in the right spots. And you Brooks Bowman is the perfect example. We have talked endlessly about 2:05:30 how he’s not a prospect, but that doesn’t mean he’s not useful. and he shows that he’s useful. Interest thing, 2:05:37 too, like as a as a bench player, he’s got tremendous sprint speed, so you can put 2:05:42 him in there and run like the [ __ ] wind and like you have enough of these guys that do all these things that are 2:05:48 super [ __ ] helpful. Um, and the comments have said, “Does Chase continue to get better and more innings MLB level?” Yeah, all these guys will, but 2:05:55 all we’re saying is the limitations on the power of Chase just puts a cap on what the offense can be. 2:06:00 It’s going to be a problem. It’s gonna be a problem in terms of like him being a everyday starter. It makes 2:06:07 it makes it really difficult in this day and age of baseball to not be able to hit a bunch of home runs to to break 2:06:13 into a lineup. Like you look around at the good teams like they got guys that are just hitting double digit home runs 2:06:20 that are like they’re they’re very glove forward second baseman or shortstop. 2:06:27 Correct. Yeah. Exactly. and and may and maybe that’s kind of his lot in life, but he’ll play a lot. I mean, I don’t 2:06:33 think he’s not when you say he’s not gonna be a start, he’s still gonna play. They’re still going to be involved in these games and like Venal likes using 2:06:39 the whole group. I mean, like he’ll he’ll use everyone in the position that he thinks they could fit in. You know, that’s no problem that says this this 2:06:46 core [ __ ] Yeah, in a way it does because they’re building a roster that’s interchangeable and guys can move around 2:06:52 and do things and like we said it early on we’re like, you know, Gats prioritizes the ability to play 2:06:58 different positions to to do some different things in a way that Han didn’t. Han had kind of like the set 2:07:04 starting group and if anything went wrong with anyone, you couldn’t move anyone. You couldn’t move the the things 2:07:09 on the chess board. Now you can, which is much better. Yeah. And we still don’t know what guys like Curtis Meat are going to be. Like 2:07:16 we don’t know what that’s going to be. We don’t know what Coulson McGomery is going to be. Like Cole McGomery could be very good. 2:07:22 He could be Cole McGomery to me if he’s a 25 home run guy at shortstop. That’s 2:07:29 that’s [ __ ] awesome. I I love And again, could be a misfit toy. If he’s 2:07:35 hitting like 200 25 home runs. I was going to say you see somebody’s played appearances with Coulson, you’re 2:07:40 like I see the downside. I see I see what was happening TripleA also like 2:07:46 this is Paul the young home run only but the point though beef because like I 2:07:53 think you know we’ve been talking very little about Will Venal throughout this 2:08:00 season because I don’t think it’s fair to really judge him just yet. We got a lot to see out of him. He’s stuck with a 2:08:07 pretty bad team. Like if if we have a lot of uh upside hope 2:08:14 for the these the guys on this team, but when you’re looking at this [ __ ] team, like 2:08:20 they’re a good 15 wins away from being even relevant in Major League Baseball, you know it is to add 15 wins to a team. 2:08:28 Difficult. It’s very difficult. Yep. So that’s like two Otanis. you need two 2:08:33 two Otanis to to to get you there. So, the uh 2:08:39 I don’t think he has a great team to work with, but I think in next year’s roster, 2:08:46 it’s going to be such a Rubik’s cube of a team that I think we’re going to get a very 2:08:52 good look at what he can do. And I think he’ll have a better pitching staff. I 2:08:58 think that’s definitely going to happen next year. Have a better pitching staff than you did this year. I think the bullpen will be more wellformed going 2:09:05 into next year because they know a lot more about these guys and a lot I think I think there’s people that are keepers out there right now that they 2:09:11 they feel okay this is someone who’s part of there isn’t like this year where it was like wipe it clean let’s see what we got 2:09:17 2024 was like they just kicked everyone out of there and said all right the waiver bait you pitch and then you guys 2:09:22 are out of here to start the next year like so yeah so I think it next year is going 2:09:27 to be a great year to judge Will Venible on his in-game tactics. 2:09:33 Right now, I’ll say these guys look like they want to [ __ ] play, which is a 2:09:39 lot different than the team that was just barely more shitty last year, 2:09:45 right? Like last night, I would not have stayed up last night. I would not have stayed up to watch the rest of that game 2:09:51 last night. Correct. But they but they battled back. I was thinking about this too, coming out of the All-Star break and we we were 2:09:56 in Pittsburgh to see them, you know, light up the goddamn scoreboard, beat the [ __ ] out of the Pirates. You know, you’re coming out of that, you’re you’re 2:10:03 the worst team in the AL, you’re playing for absolutely nothing. All you’re playing for is the other guys in the 2:10:08 locker room, right? A lot of these guys are are younger prospect guys, so it’s 2:10:13 fine. You you got a path. If if it doesn’t work out this year, fine. You’re you’re all good. No, they’re out there. 2:10:20 I want to kick that other guy’s ass. And it’s fun to watch. It’s fun to watch how they’re playing ball right now. You 2:10:25 know, Josh Roas throwing balls away aside. Everything else looks very fun to me. 2:10:31 Yeah. I mean, Michael A. Taylor got to be in got to be in the org moving forward when he retires. Beef, he’s he’s 2:10:37 coming back. He’s he’s got he’s got to stay as a coach. Jackie Jan says Dan Zaborski eating his projection on the pen. I want I want to 2:10:42 I do want to I I you know, I’ve never had him on the show, but I do want to ask him about that. Like, so you 2:10:48 projected this is the worst pen ever. What What happened? Why are they like kind of league average and erra? What What’s the What’s the story here? Hold 2:10:54 on. I’d love to hear the It’s all It’s all different guys. 2:11:01 The guys he rated the guys he rated might have been accurate. I was going to say the variance on a bullpen is ginormous. We don’t know. We 2:11:08 don’t know what’s going to happen really. All right. Be so like what you were saying at just to sum it up is that 2:11:14 Lenin Sosa should have been traded at the deadline because he’s such a special talent. Is that what? 2:11:20 No, pretty sure. Pretty sure that’s what I heard. Len is a flawed toy like a bunch of the 2:11:25 other flawed toys here, but we need him. And for now, I like I would pencil him in next year, 2026, 2:11:32 starting second baseman or at least a guy getting 450 plate appearances on the white side. I I I think that’s 2:11:39 kind of the approach there. I like that. Um I mean, he hits for power. Like you mentioned, they do have a lot of guys 2:11:44 that hit flying balls these days. And like I had heard Sean Anderson and he said it tongue and cheek. He said 250 2:11:51 pound uh Miguel Vargas. Yeah, you kind of want the fly ball guys. You kind of want them to hit those 2:11:57 fly balls hard. Have a lot of ass in those fly balls. And Lenine got the BBL man. So I would put them in the lineup 2:12:03 and I and I would I’d run with it until it don’t work no more. All right. Be I want We didn’t do this 2:12:09 earlier because the banter went a little long. So I want to just get Wait. Sorry. that wrong thing. Uh 2:12:18 I want to get our season long bets. We haven’t talked about these. Oh yeah. Let’s do it. 2:12:23 So if if you haven’t been following, we have a few season long bets that we’ve been tracking. All three of us are in on 2:12:30 two of these. So and then Beef has his his steak dinner bet. So the first one is the Socks over 50 over 49 and a half 2:12:39 wins for the season. So we need 50 wins. We only need eight more wins, baby. 2:12:44 with 47 left. Only eight more wins to go. I would love to get a 2:12:53 maybe two. Maybe uh that would be great for your I’m 2:12:59 thinking about doing something special when they get to the 50th win. I got an idea. I’m going to tell you offline, but 2:13:04 I got an idea for the 50th win. We should do something fun, special. Spread some of the wealth around there. We We 2:13:10 will have made a bunch of money from that. We spread a little of the wealth out there. I am excited. 2:13:15 So your staked dinner bet. Yes. You need 116 more runs 2:13:22 and that’s that’s over 47 games. So that’s only like two and a half runs per game. You’re on a good path, but last 2:13:29 year you were you were getting blown out of the water and then things changed 2:13:34 towards the end. So like how how ner are you? I’m I’m not nervous at all. I because 2:13:41 because I worked hard to get a better number than he was originally going to give me and the better number has me at 2:13:47 a huge edge right now. Whereas he was going to give me 604 and a half initially. 2:13:52 Oh man. Yeah, that would be really tight right now. But I worked to get that better number 555 and a half. I I was able to, 2:13:59 you know, it’s just luck, but I was able to get a better number. I’m not worried at all. I’m actually was looking at our 2:14:05 bobblehead night and hoping that that was the night that they break it. Yeah, that would be so special to have the 2:14:10 bobbleheads, everyone out there. We’re having fun. I got to take four class pictures because we’re spread out a 2:14:15 bunch of all these sections and win the steak dinner bet that night. That that’s the night I want to clinch it on 2:14:20 September 16th. When when it’s when you’re coming to the ballpark and you’re you’re only careing the in the world, 2:14:26 it’s not even about the White Sox. It’s about getting this goddamn bobblehead. You want this bobblehead and you get 2:14:31 this bobblehead and you’re hanging out with all the friends, all the 108ers, and doing 108 [ __ ] and I win the state 2:14:37 tournament. That’s that’s what would be special. [ __ ] right. [ __ ] right. And then our last one 2:14:44 Oh, baby. is the Pete Alonzo. Let’s go. We’re back. Pete Alonzo. We We wanted what we have 2:14:49 is him to lead the league in RBI. League leader. We got this at great 2:14:55 odds, too. He’s in second right now. He’s got 91. Is it Schwarber? 2:15:01 Schwarber’s 94. Been killing, man. [ __ ] He’s been killing us here. Schworber. Schworber is now the favorite 2:15:08 to win the MVP. Really? Yes. He shot ahead of Otani. 2:15:14 Yes. Holy [ __ ] So yeah, I think he’s at like plus 275 and Otani’s at like plus 400 or 2:15:20 something. I It makes me want to bet Otani to be totally honest. Um, yeah, because Otana can get red hot and 2:15:26 like, but I was telling the guy at work and he’s like, you know, this could be the writers could have like a Michael Jordan 2:15:32 fatigue of going like, we can’t just give it to Otani every year. True. And now we’ve got a great guy that 2:15:38 people people love that’s a that’s a cool story 2:15:43 cuz he’s banging all these home runs. It might be like, yeah, give it to Schwarber, you know? So you might see 2:15:51 cuz like everybody’s going to have Schwarber as second if if they’re not first right now. So like we’ll see how it goes. I think they obviously have to 2:15:57 win the division for it to happen. Like I think they have to win the division. So we’ll see. 2:16:03 I can’t believe that Schwarber was the guy out of that core. That’s like going to the Hall of Fame 2:16:09 basically. I mean like he’s he’s a couple healthy seasons from like easy Hall of Fame battles. So we were talking about that. He’s near 2:16:15 400, right? Near 400. 400, right? He also 2:16:20 his profile you can play for a while, right? Like so he could stick around for a while. He could get 450 500 home runs. 2:16:28 If he has 500, he’s 500’s in region obviously you he’d be in. No question. Like there’s 2:16:34 if he gets an MVP this year and has I think he’s in. I don’t see it. And he’s got a World 2:16:40 Series. He’s got a couple World Series. Does he have more than one World Series? He might. I don’t I don’t remember. 2:16:45 I think he’s only got one. I think he might have avoided some of those teams by like a year. He was a national like 2:16:51 the next year. Yeah, he was a national after that. So, he’s got he’s got one World Series. 2:16:56 Okay. Um but still World Series if he got an MVP this year. Like it’s it’s 2:17:02 hard to keep him out. He’s 32y. He’s like I mean you’re 2:17:09 talking 500 home runs. I mean 600’s not even out of reach really. I mean it would it would it would take a toy like 2:17:15 sprint there but like I mean he that’s the guy who’s most liked in my opinion like just this 2:17:20 tremendous [ __ ] hitter, you know? It’s a guy that could stick around. And that’s the thing like for sure that 2:17:26 it’s not unreasonable to think he plays four four more years, right? Like it’s 2:17:32 an easy four more years and that’s 10 more years. Four years. It’s it’s no there’s no reason that he can’t hit 150 home runs 2:17:39 in four years, right? Exactly. That’s Yeah. No, there’s no question. I’m I’m sorry. I’m Mike 2:17:46 PR didn’t mean to hurt feelings. Was what was the uh tender was like $8 million. Just let him walk. 2:17:54 And honestly, I got Jenner just got an extension by the way. 2:17:59 Valued by MLB owners. Doing a lot of hindsight is 2020. 2:18:05 I I don’t think a lot of people were pissed when that happened. So, like it’s, you know, it is what it is. We, 2:18:12 you know, we gave up Andrew Vaughn, too. Don’t forget. You know, how dare you. Greatest first baseman in Brewers 2:18:18 history. All right, Beef. It’s time for thank 2:18:25 yous and GFYs. Beef, what are you thinking of GFY? I 2:18:30 got two. I’m gonna I’m gonna thank Mrs. Beef for planning an absolutely lovely San Diego vacation. We had so much 2:18:36 goddamn fun relaxing. Just the three of us just me, Mrs. Beef, Bonita had an 2:18:42 awesome time. Dinners, breakfast, just [ __ ] on the beach at the pool, just 2:18:47 having an awesome time. Just like the kind of vacation you need right before the school year starts to get yourself 2:18:53 right. And so we we got ourselves right. And so so thank you, Mrs. B, for taking care of us and make sure I’m totally 2:18:59 recharged. You can see how much energy I got. We went two almost two and a half hours tonight, just the two of us. The 2:19:04 other thank you is White Sox Dave for reaching out to us for Saturday. I can’t wait for Saturday. It’s gonna be a great 2:19:09 event at the ballpark. We got some awesome guests. Can’t say who they are yet, but it’s gonna be a lot of fun. 2:19:14 Show up in lot B the grass. That’s the uh the putting green, the uh the the 2:19:19 mini golf putting green. Come up there right by home plate. We’re going to be over there. We’re going to have a stage. We’re going to be talking the four of us 2:19:26 and some noteworthy guests. So, you don’t have to listen to us. You have to listen to the guests. But be an awesome [ __ ] time. So, thank you to Dave for 2:19:32 always thinking of us. He always thinks of us. Yeah, I mine are very similar. So, mine first is is thanking Quzy for the for 2:19:39 the weekend we just had. It was awesome. Um and also her and Mrs. Beef for going, 2:19:45 you know what? Go ahead, guys. Go on your ridiculous [ __ ] vacation that you’re going to go on next week. Uh 2:19:51 it’s going to be lit. So, so that I I thank them for that too and in advance for for doing the podcast 2:19:57 next week. Uh correct. And then I also Yeah, I also want to thank White Sox Dave. Now, you know, 2:20:04 little inside baseball here. Like the socks did not reach out to us. No, they didn’t go, “Hey, 108 guys, we want 2:20:09 you to do this show.” They reached out to Dave and said, “Hey, we want you guys to do a show.” And rather than say, 2:20:17 “Hey, I’ve got 80 million guys here at at Bartool that could come and do a show with me.” Uh, you know, he he opted to 2:20:25 ask us if if we wanted to do the show with him. And I really appreciate that. That’s really really uh cool of him to 2:20:31 do. And I think it’s going to be an absolute ton of fun. I I can’t wait for Saturday. Although that doesn’t mean I 2:20:38 won’t have a great time tomorrow night when we’re at the game and then having that one last taste at our our friends 2:20:44 over at Cork at the Park. But until then, until then. And I mean like I didn’t even give the tickets 2:20:50 away. So feel free for some hit me in the DMs if you need those tickets. You were all very funny tonight. Uh I will 2:20:57 talk to you guys later. Beef. See you at the park tomorrow. So have a good one. Peace. 2:21:04 Chicago. 2:21:09 They say playing for the White Socks. He had a certain fair. He hit 69 home runs. 2:21:16 Man, that ain’t fair. He swung that bat like a wild tornado 2:21:23 storm. Every time he stepped up, he smashed it. That was the norm. 2:21:30 The ladies in the stands, they couldn’t help but the legend of Alejandroes 2:21:37 spreading everywhere. 2:21:43 Alejandro got the magic touch on the field. He was 2:21:51 a king. Oh, 2:21:56 he was too much swinging that back. He left the crowd in all. 2:22:03 The legend of Alejandro.About The Author
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