The 5 – Beers.

Have you ever streamed a Spring Training game through Firefox on a Mac?  That’s me right fucking now and it got me thinking, “Hey it’s not too early to have a fucking beer!”.  Which, with our 108 logic is true for every waking hour from now till October.  So you might be asking yourself, “How do I drink like a 108’er?” “What does Chorizy-E or Beefloaf drink on a crisp spring morn?” or perhaps “What can I get at the park with the most bang for my buck?”  Be thankful that MSS is here to help.


Pregamin’ Like a Boss

The 108 guys have a modified split season ticket package, which is all weekend home games.  We add in the Friday games, mostly cause we can’t wait till Saturday to get drunk, tell old stories and test our feats of strength.  What do we begin the night with?  As a former employee in an advertising agency, my drinking on Friday used to begin at about 3 or 4pm. I used to bring in all sorts of assorted beers to work for our “tastings”, so I sometimes would start out with some pretty good beers.  I enjoy stouts, porters, IPA’s, lagers and whatever you put in front of me.  I like just about anything if it is made well.  Or cheap.  Or, well, I will drink most anything.


Fridays is usually (always) at BeefLoaf’s Patio.  What’s key about this, is even in the event that we get hammered, we can still see when they start the game.  If we miss the opening fireworks SOUND (which can sound like gunfire) with can SEE the fireworks being shot off. Our cue to drink up or get a road cup.  Or take a roadie to slam on the 5 minute walk over there.


Last year we drank-a-many of what we call Kirky’s, the least offensive, least tasting beer, Kirkland Light. You could get  a 48pk, for about $24.  $12 a case, which is pretty solid.  What I enjoyed about them was that you got 2 cases in one. Sadly, it seems like that my location (even with me buying 10+ cases last year) seems to have discontinued the Kirky’s, which doesn’t make me angry or sad, much like their beer didn’t leave an impression on me either way.  So what will be the pre-game drink of choice?  Let’s look into BeefLoaf’s Magical Cooler……

Thanks Internet!

BeefLoaf is always good for a 6’er of the good shit.  He might enjoy one here and there, but besides being a very talented numbers guy, the man knows how to host a party.  Even if the party is just 5 guys, he will have some type of beer or booze that will tickle your fancy.  The good stuff is usually an offering from Revolution Brewing in Chicago.  Anti-Hero is a 108 fave, with it’s 6.5% ABV, it get’s you toasty on a cool evening and cools you down during the warmer months.  It comes in cans which is a must.

While we drink the shit outta Miller Lite at the park, the domestic offering in the cooler is usually High Life.  Why you ask?  Cause it’s fucking delish.  Plus it isn’t as pretentious as PBR.  Moving from High Life to Lite is a pretty natural transition, so that seems to work well.

The wild card beer can be a number of things, Modelo (Especial or Negra), Budweiser, Lagunitas, you know beer.  If the Indy fellas are feeling crazy, we might have a really fresh Three Floyds selection, which is always awesome.  But as long as it is cold, we DGAF.


Back in the day, I used to drink alot of vodka.  But then I started blacking out and being told stories the morning after of insane behavior, so I kinda ended that. Now-a-days , I will have a watered down margarita or lemonade vodka at the game, but for the most part I stay off the hard stuff.  The other boys enjoy all sorts of what we call “short glasses”.  I’m good for a shot here and there, but that is usually limited to our Indiana Nights, which I will begrudgingly (I spelled that word right the first time!) shoot Jager with all the locals, which tastes just like college.  Or regret. Tequila is always available. Bourbon, vodka is always out for the dads, but beer is the #1 thing we drink the most.

In Game Decisions.

Between the 5 of us, we all have at least two vendors on speedial.  If we happen to be later than the 3rd, one of us will get a text from said vendors wondering where we are.  Last year we did have some informal tryouts after our fave beer vendor passed during the offseason.  We have our regular guy, Brian, and James provides the frozen drinks.  Both of these guys know how to keep us on point.


As most of you know, the beer selection at the park is pretty awesome.  They have those “Beer’s Of The World” stands that will get you alot of craft beers including Yum Yum by Three Floyds, Daisy Cutter by Half Acre and several good non-domestic options.  But if you swing by section 112 you will find the best deal in the park , Anti-Hero 24oz Drafts for under $12.  I know what you are thinking, but per ounce that beer is cheaper than the 16oz Lites for $8.50.  I am sure these prices will go up (Thanks Trump) but it will still be the best bang for your buck in the park.  The ABV of Lite is 4.2%, Anti-Hero is 6.5%, you do the math.  Plus it’s local and the ladies that pour it are some of the most lovely in the park.  Love ya Shirley!

You get the Miller/Coors products in the seats, including Summer Shandy.  I am not a big fan of the Shandy, but @alvaicaitis is, so that says something.

We stick to Lite and sometimes Coors Light during the game.  Chorizy isn’t a fan of MGD, but like most of us, he’ll drink anything.  Sometimes he’ll even drink 2 at a time.


Post Game.

Depending on the game, the temp, the crew, the coupons, the desire, the heart, the time, you can usually catch us having a drink or two to cap the drinking that has been going on for about 6 hours now.  Pre-Kid, you could always catch me on the patio with ‘Loaf talking shit till 2am.  Nowadays those convos are reserved for special times, but we all are usually good for a few after the game.  Cause what do we have to do?  Oh yeah drink the next day cause it’s Saturday.  Sundays we might take it easier than we have on the Fri and Sat, but there has been some real fun Sundays that have been extremely liquid.

Our nightcaps are just what is leftover from the pregame which will be the pregame for the next game.  The cooler is always stocked with 12oz cans of liquid love. New for 2017 is the addition of a HOT TUB that ‘Loaf installed during the off-season.  It brings all sorts of questions on what 2017 will hold.  Will Chorizy drown during his post-game nap in the tub?  Will MSS’s hair clog it all up?  Does ‘Loaf’s hair only get clean in his hot tub?  Beers are always better in the tub, when you are knee to knee with your tall buddies.


“Is this a dream?”

“No. it’s BeefLoaf’s Patio.  Now with hot tub.”


Tyler Saladino’s Challenge to White Sox Fans!!!

Yesterday , in the Twitterverse, something amazing happened.  An actual player in the White Sox organization responded to one of our tweets.  Here is that tweet –


To which we got this –


Pretty effin cool, just like our man Ty Fu and his wonderful ‘stache. You have about 75 days to grow something that we’ll all be pround off.  Get to work! To be in the contest, tweet us @fromthe108 and Tyler @SaladinoTyler and hashtag it #southsidestachemen. And of course you NEED to include a pic of your facial hair entry!

If free tix from Tyler isn’t sweet enough, you will also win a brand spanking new @fromthe108 T-shirt! It’s 100% Cotton and 100% awesome.  We went all out and made it 3 color with a back! If you have any questions send us a message on our FB account or DM us on Twitter.

In the aftermath of this exchange, almost immediately our thoughts go right to Chorizy-E who changes his facial hair like he’s evading the law (which he might be).   Let’s take a look at the highlights of Chorizy’s facial hair game so you contest entrants know how high (or low) you’ll have to go to get the free tickets from Tyler and a shirt from us!


MSS’s Take – A great shot of the both Chorizy and Beef.  Look at that fu manchu on Chorizy.  Without the crazy eyes, he almost looks normal.  I’d rather see some longer side burns, maybe some ram horns almost connecting, which will really put this up to a solid 7.5 on the “Yeah, I made out with my 3rd cousin” scale of 10.

‘Loaf Take – This is deserving of a participation trophy and nothing else.  I look good in that pic tho’


MSS’s Take – This was just really spot on.

‘Loaf Take – Derek Smalls has aged quite a bit.  At least he is still stuffing his pants with produce. Too bad it’s lettuce.


MSS’s Take – Oh for pete’s sake.  Everything about this is just awful.  Short hair and just a ‘stache. I’d call the cops on this guy if he showed his face in my neighborhood.  I’ve seen this guy before, mostly at public pools trying to be incognito. Maybe wearing a “Mustache Rides 5¢” t-shirt maybe not, but you know he’s saying it to any girl over the age of 15.

Loaf Take – This is a fairly vanilla ‘stache (with a hint of bourbon, obviously) and it probably wouldn’t win this contest, but it’s still enjoyable


MSS’s Take – I see hardly anything wrong in this pic. Aside from all the grey hair.

‘Loaf Take – This is about a ‘stache contest, not a, let’s see how unemployed I can look contest.


MSS’s Take – Wow.  I had never seen this pic before.  He does look like Great Tiger getting a punch in the gut.  He looks young too. Like really young.

‘Loaf Take – 8th grade graduation picture…..I think…’s possible that Walt Frazier and Keith Hernandez intervened, we’ll never know


MSS’s Take – Here we have Quernzy with the guy who played Pedro in Napoleon Dynamite Why do we have that in amongst…..DEAR GOD THAT IS CHORIZY.

Loaf Take – A little inside baseball, but Chorizy was forced to have that hair style and clothing while he was on parole a few years back (court mandated)


MSS’s Take – Is that a duckface? Really?  On the positive side, really smooth cheeks. The facial hair is intriguing, makes ya wonder. What you wonder about is up to you.

Loaf Take – This is a strong entrant. It is similar to the opening picture, except he really gives a fk in this shot.  This could be in the running.


MSS’s Take – I like this style, the crazy goatee, kinda System Of A Down-ish, long hair.  But seriously, is that a duckface too?  And is that Boones Farm? SMH.

Loaf Take – Always in great cardiovascular shape, Chorizy and his facial hair are sweating through their t-shirt after playing some billiards.


MSS’s Take – Buddy Chorizy! A time tested look that is classic. Now, he can’t tun water into High Life (really it’s not that far off to begin with) but he can turn $20 into a liquid party.  A liquid party that he will more than likely pass out at, wake up later and ask why we didn’t get him tacos.  Cause we thought you were dead brah.

Loaf Take – Chorizy always wanted to be in the clergy, this was his last and failed attempt, for obvious reasons

MSS disclaimer – I have always been jealous of the ability of Chorizy and BeefLoaf to grow elaborate facial hair in a matter of days.  They also can skip a haircut or 2 and it will be on their shoulders. These guys are hairy and they never have to wait too long to have a new style.  I haven’t cut my hair in 2 years just so I could fit in.

The 5 – Promotions We’d Like To See

As we all know, attendance has been an issue the last few years.  I’d like to think that with the Sox trying to make major changes, the fans will support them by buying cheap ass tickets ($15 corners, $7 uppers for most games). But more than likely they won’t buy shit till we start winning again, much like last year when we started winning, future games started to sell.  100k tickets in a week. You know what to call that –



So here are 5 promotions that we’d like to see –

1. BOGO (Buy One Get One) Tuesday. We used to have half price Monday for the tickets (they were overpriced at that time anyways) but people would lose their shit cause they thought they were getting a deal. Much like Kohls, they showed you that saved a bunch of money but you were still getting ripped off.  I remember one Monday watching a girl, who was White Girl Wasted, fall down about 15 rows on the cement in 512. She got grabbed about 3 rows before the bottom, which might have hurt her more.

So anyways, let’s have a day where there is an item that is BOGO.  Pizza, Pretzels, Nachos and our fave in the 108, BEER.  Yes, I think there should be one day (a random Tuesday night in April) that they sell 2 beers for 1.  You don’t have to announce it in advance, but rather do it when people get to the game.  It should be a reward to everyone that is attending a vs. Twins game while it is 35 degrees out.  Get Drunk On Us Night.

Summary – On Tuesdays early in the year, one item will be BOGO. It can be any concession, but one night has to be beer. 


MGD is better (kinda) when it’s 2 for 1.


2. Free Food For Kids.  If I had a dollar everytime someone used the “Food Prices” as a reason not to go to the game I would have enough money to pay off James Shields‘ contract.  One, I am always shocked that people are shocked at the high prices.  Two, you can bring literally ANYTHING food wise into the game.  One game I saw a guy eating a carrot I am sure he stole from Mr. Ed.  Three, I am REALLY REALLY shocked that people are shocked you can bring in anything.  So let’s follow the masters of promotion, Denny’s, and give the kids FREE FOOD!  It is a similar take on the Kohls example, if people think they are getting a deal, they will spend more.  What’s a profit margin on $6 hot dog?  Give away 2 to sell two.  Plus, you can give away those hot dogs that they sell for $1 4th of July weekend. Those are tasty, especially the 6th one followed by your 8th Lite.  You’ll sell more tickets, more people will come and you’ll sell more food.  Easy peasy.

Summary – Every weekday game, KIDS EAT FREE. Simple meal of a hot dog, chips and a small pop.


3. Punch cards. For years and years, BeefLoaf has argued for a charge account that is connected to your seat so you can get loaded without having to have cash on you.  He has also asked for pizza slices delivered to your seat.  Neither is really ground breaking, or all that hard to make happen, but the Sox don’t seem to be interested. So give us a punch card!  Any item over $5, you get a punch.  For every $5 you spend, you get a punch.  Once you hit $100, you get $25 in Comiskey Cash.

Summary – Get a punch for every $5 you spend. Every $100 you spend, you get $25 in Comiskey Cash.

Just one I found on the net, but it works!


4. Cat Day. We already have a very successful Bark At The Park! Day.  Sells out (for dog space anyways) every year.  Like Elvis night, I don’t try to understand it, but just get drunk at it and enjoy the extra people.  So why don’t we have a Cat Day / Night?  Cats are cleaner, don’t piss and shit all over the place and honestly fit the Sox fan demeanor a bit better.  Cats don’t give a fuck, they use you for their purposes and only when they want to.  Which to me describes a majority of Sox fans.  BeefLoaf owns several cats and now a dog that looks like a cat.  The guy loves pussy, that much is clear.

Summary – Cat Night.  Make it happen!

Faster than Abreu.

5. Hang With An Alumni Player Night. Yes. Hell yes. Want to eat churros with Dan Pasqua?  We can make that happen.  Wanna have a hot dog eating contest with Ron Kittle? We can do that too.  Just be careful cause Kitty can eat (and drink) like a madman.  Create a contest, it can be on a weeknight too, for a guy to spend a game with an ex-player.  They get a free meal, the fan get’s a once in a lifetime experience.  I’d love listening to Carlos May‘s stories and thoughts on the young bloods coming up.  Sounds like a win win for all involved.

Summary – Alumni Date Night on the Sox!




Big things are coming for the 108 in 2017.  We have some t-shirts getting printed as I type this.  Look for us at SoxFest and maybe you’ll get a “108 Exclusive” shirt.  Follow us on FB here! We go live from time to time, mostly while drunk. We also have our Twitter that you can follow here!

Bandwagon Cubs Fans, Repent!

Folks, its your old buddy BeefLoaf…………this is a special post, a playoff baseball post.  This is a post that should help you and more importantly, your Cubs fan friends, enjoy baseball this time of year.  A recent series of discussions between the 108ers helped us identify that most of OUR friends that claim their fandom to the Northside team, are very, very casual fans and few, if any, actually attended, or even so much as watched or listened to games during their extended hiatus from playoff baseball.  Now, this isn’t a sin in the biblical sense, but it is a sin of fandom if you intend to sport your Cubbie blue all over the goddamn place and choose to be obnoxious to your fellow Southsider that has been living and dying with an awful team for 8 years.  So upon further review (no worries, Mike Carey isn’t advising us), I decided to create a list of things that the bandwagon Cubs fans can do to repent and feel full enjoyment for this current playoff run.  White Sox fans, please pass this list on to your Cubs fan friends and together we can live in harmony, like ebony and ivory.
Re-embrace Sammy Sosa………..I’m tired of it, as Cubs fans, you love Sammy Sosa, so I want you to bring him back in to your life….I think hanging an 8×11 photo of him in your den should do the trick.  Extra credit for hanging a picture of “White” Sammy Sosa
Buy an old school shirsey………….I’d suggest EITHER something from your childhood, whatever era that might be (I’m in my late 30’s so a Manny Trillo shirsey might be fun)………..OR a guy that none of the other bandwagon fans know who the fuck they are…….like 2012 All Star Bryan LaHair
Drink nothing but Old Style for an entire playoff game.  It used to be the main beer at the park on Sheffield and Addison, so go nostalgic and knock back some Old Style
Rewatch Glenallen Hill’s May 11, 2000 monster fucking home run.  It’s seriously the longest fucking home run I have ever seen (I don’t care what the record books say).  And it’s so easy to find in the YouTube era, so go check it out.  If it is your first time viewing it, please watch it in private, because it’s NSFW
Adopt some vintage Cubs styles to your personal ensemble……I’ll leave this to your imagination, but a couple of things that would really endear you to the hard core Cubs fans and your White Sox brethren as well would be getting a perm like 80’s closer Lee Smith, or possibly an I ❤️ Sandy Sandberg tattoo, you know, something really classy
Say it out loud, so all can hear…”FUCK RYAN DEMPSTER AND HIS STUPID FUCKING IMPRESSION OF WILL FARRELL DOING HARRY CARAY!!!!” We all know this sucks, and I’m still not sure why this is allowed to be on TV.  You’ll be considered part of the die-hards if you say this blows


Make sure others know that you blame Alex Gonzalez and Dusty Baker’s over usage of Mark Prior in game 2, for the 2003 team’s NLCS collapse, and NOT Steve Bartman.
Create a macaroni statue of your favorite current player or coach, I’d suggest Chris Bosio as it would take the most possible macaroni of any person in the dugout.   Don’t let him near your statue though, I doubt he could resist, as it appears his self control around the table is in question.
Get into a bar fight with Kyle Farnsworth.  To be honest, most of you  have probably already done this, or if you are woman, you have been sloppily hit on by him, so this is probably the least necessary one on the list, but I’ll leave it on here for those that were incarcerated or underage during those years.


 – BeefLoaf

The 5 – Players that RV will waste playing time on in a lost September

I don’t trust grown men who wear rubber bracelets.
When it gets to September the last several years, it is almost certain that our White Sox are just playing out the string.  That doesn’t mean that this time of year can’t be valuable in some way shape or form even if that doesn’t have anything to due with the Win/Loss columns in the 2016 standings.  Smarter writers than those here at the 108 have noted that PA (Plate Appearances) are a commodity to be used wisely.  Alas, we still have Robin Ventura at the helm and he’s guaranteed to hurt the White Sox down the stretch even when the standings don’t matter, by giving those valuable PA to players that don’t matter and leaving on the bench players we’d like to see, to determine if they can be someone on the big club……….the list below…in no particular order, will make me cry when it actually occurs.
James, don’t go away mad. James, just go away. #crue #wallymoney
5. James Shields – Wasting even one more start this season on this dumpster fire is terrible team management top to bottom.   I understand he’s likely to exercise his option and be under contract for two more seasons, but running him out there as a starter in 2016 for the White Sox or Padres has been downright dreadful.  Alternative –  Carson Fulmer Anthony Raunado  I know Raunado hasn’t been too hot since his first start at Wrigley, but giving him a little run is worth a lot more than watching James Shields get to 20 losses (sorry Biguns). Other ideas – Bullpen game or use the Rays 5th starter idea (this is when the Rays would start a high leverage reliever for the 1st inning and then bring in a starter in the 2nd inning and have them face roughly 18 batters to avoid the 3rd time through the lineup penalty)
Playing Edward Mc 40 Hands? F Yeah.
4. Brett Lawrie – If he recovers we don’t really need to see him again, we know what he is……………high energy, meh production, major injury risk.  Alternative – Carlos Sanchez I know his OPS is lower than the weight of some of our fellow Sox fans, but he’s still young, hasn’t had a lot of PA’s in MLB and could possibly show something that either the White Sox or some other team in trade may find valuable.  The glove has been there, but I’d like to see some more PA’s to determine if he can be passable with the bat.  Other ideas – Tyler Saladino is clearly still a bench player on this team next year so no harm in him getting the PAs
Love my friend. Love his wife more.


3. Avisail Garcia – He’s received nearly 1500 PA, for a slash line of .259/.310/.384, that’s right folks, he’s Dayan Viciedo with even less power.  Suffice to say, he shouldn’t be on this roster next year unless full scale rebuild is occurring and you are just looking for warm bodies to help you gather up a top 5 draft pick.  Alternatives – Jason Coats has done nothing but hit at the top levels of the minors, so there isn’t a good reason not to give him as many PA’s in September as possible.  Let’s see if he can actually hit in the majors and determine from there his best use (probably in a trade, or in LF after trading Melky).   Other Ideas – Tyler Saladino could get worked out in a corner OF spot just to give him reps for emergencies in the future.  Again, this isn’t a minors loaded with ready OF’s or hitters (RIP Charlie Tilson).  Other Other Ideas – Jacob May it truly could not hurt to see Jacob May man CF a few times during September, I just want to put an eye on him even if he’s not really a player.  If JB Shuck absorbs any of this playing time, you know we’re fucked.
Might be the last time we ever post this picture. EL NINO!
2. Matt Albers – His career is probably over so there is no upside here other than tanking for a protected draft pick.  There was a time in April of this vary season (when the White Sox were the best team EVAR) that Albers was a fan favorite of the 108, El Nino…………now, he’s basically become Chris Farley in Beverly Hills Ninja, once beloved, but now just playing out the string and close to the end.  Alternatives – Zach Burdi Anything Other Ideas – Release him tomorrow
Dollar Shave Club brah. 
1.  Alex Avila – I see no point in playing anyone at catcher other than Omar Narvaez, with a sprinkling of Kevan Smith.     Let’s see an extended look and determine if Narvaez is your #1 catcher next year in a rebuild or your #2 catcher next year on a team making another (sigh) run.  Alternatives – Omar Narvaez  Other Ideas – Omar Narvaez………just fucking play him everyday and twice on Sunday!!!!

– BeefLoaf

I’m The Jerk That Wants The Sox To Sign A-Rod

Wait, What?

So in case you haven’t been paying attention, two things are going on:

  1. The Yankees are paying Alex Rodriguez about $27MM to GTFO.
  2. The Sox are a raging dumpster fire that should be shooting for a top 10 pick in 2017.

All this said, let’s add A-Rod to the dumpster fire.  I can see you there, you don’t like it, but I don’t care.  I want to see this happen.


Why would you want this?

It’s kind of the White Sox way to pick up a player that was once great, that is barely usable now.  Think Manny, Griffey, Rollins, Canseco, Andruw Jones, and on and on and on.  So this wouldn’t even be out of character for the Sox.  In addition to this, A-Rod is 4 HR short of 700.  I don’t care how many asterisks you throw at it, I’d love to be in the park for someone, anyone’s 700th HR.  And the Sox can use the bump in attendance that would bring, so they can have extra cash to NOT spend in free agency.  It would also require a DH platoon.  This is something so ridiculous, that once again, I want to see it.  I mean, the season is over, let’s have some fun with this.


Lastly, I believe we’ll have time travel in my lifetime.  Not Darren Daulton, crazy person time travel, but real time travel.  And I’m such a dick, I’d really just like to go see 2007 Chorizy-E and tell him that the Sox will have A-Rod, Morneau, and Rollins in the same season.  I won’t let him know, they’ll be absolutely terrible.


How would you even roster this?

I will admit, it is not easy to have 2 DH on the same team.  But by sending down Shuck and Sanchez (sorry Write Sox) and bringing up Leury Garcia, you’re there.  Also, having to play A-Rod at 3B in a pinch would be something worth going to the park to see.  It’d be like putting Minnie Minoso in CF in the 1990s.


But he used PEDs!

I own a Jose Canseco Sox jersey, so obviously this is not an issue for me.  And if PEDs are still somehow an issue for you, you really need to take off the blinders and realize the game you love is completely built on it.  Or did you think that MLB players having ADHD at about 100x the rest of the population is a normal thing?  Do you not know what Greenies are?  Do you think that Jim Thome is the cleanest player ever but played on one of the the dirtiest teams ever?  Yeah, I dragged Thome into it, and deep down you know you should at least question it.  Let’s face it, PEDs aren’t what ruined baseball, it’s why you turned it back on in the late 90s.

Did you forget about David Segui?

I assume you’ve closed the browser by now.  If you haven’t, stop by the 108 when there’s a lefty on the mound, and you want to catch the opposite field 700th HR off A-Rod’s bat.   I’ll be there drinking a few of my performance enhancers.

– Chorizy-E

Sox/Cubs Games at US Cellular Field SUCK!

All right, someone had to say it: Sox/Cubs games at US Cellular Field Suck!  The reason youdon’t realize this is that Sox and Cubs fans are “supposed” to have a stupid rivalry (we don’t) and Pud Selig sold everyone on why inter-league play is so great (it’s fine, but all the other leagues do it and don’t make a big deal about it)………..but these games blow…..


I’ll admit, I enjoyed those backyard fighting videos of Kimbo Slice back in the day as much as the next guy, but what I don’t really enjoy is a fight breaking out every half inning between two knuckleheads that can’t handle their booze/got cuckold’d last weekend/were recently fired from their job……….whatever.  I’m here to enjoy a ball game, not watching a slap and tickle fight between idiots.  Fights not only cause a disturbance to those around the activity, but they also increase scrutiny from security and discourage people from being willing to bring their families…..

Security don’t play.


We in the 108 have been known to take down a beverage or two, but the Sox/Cubs games bring out the worst in people consuming………a few years back we had some rough looking fellows sitting a row back of us in the 108.  One of their party had a little too much fun and in the 2nd inning, had, what they call in the eating competitions, a “reversal of fortune”……….that was no fun………….in fact, the 108’ers had their own day in which they consumed too much Limoncello before the game…..BeefLoaf decided to remove himself from the ballpark in the 5th inning, not to be heard from until the next day.  It gets ugly.

Really, it’s amateur hour.  It’s the only thing that rivals St Patrick’s Day, because it has all the same elements as a St Patty’s Day bar at 10pm: there’s a fight, there’s a guy puking, there’s a girl crying, and for some unknown reason, people are in John Barleycorn’s.

“Puke and rally beeeeeeeeotch!”


Shut the fuck up with this.

It is a fake rivarly……….we all know it………… much as the media has always tried to pin Sox fans vs Cubs fans, we really don’t hate each other, and we really couldn’t give a fuck about each others’ teams other than some good natured ball busting.  Most years, at least one of the teams is horrible, so the stakes are meh.  I remember watching Darin Erstad try to make a diving catch in CF and his career being over…….nobody wants to see that.  It is only exacerbated by the stupid BP Cup (which was extra fun after the oil spill)…….it’s Chicago baseball’s participation trophy.

Ozzie showed up at Dugans with this. No one cared.


The Sox have shown their true colors and it is time for a tear down.  But you and I both know, they’ll sweep this series or at least win it and give people a false sense of hope.  And of course, this is right before the deadline.

– BeefLoaf and Chorizy-E

The 5 – Bobbleheads and Bo.

Growing up I remember teams, the 1989 “Flyin’ Illini”, 91-93 Bulls, ’85 Bears, but besides Jordan, Bo Jackson was one of the biggest sports figures in my life.  I loved Bo.  I have a huge card collection of only Bo’s.  I bought sets to just get Bo’s that I needed. Watching Bo go down in that football game was hard.  But when the Sox picked him up, I was over the moon.  My first White Sox game was his second game back, he homered.  I lost my shit.  I have the posters.  I have the shirts.  I have his book.


Many years later, when Bo was gonna be at SoxFest, I was amped. I went home to get my “The Ball Player” poster for him to sign.  Then I found out that Bo doesn’t sign that picture, at all, anymore.  For those of you not familiar with SoxFest, most guys will sign anything you give them.  But Bo and Carlton Fisk have only been signing free pics that the Sox give out when they appear at SoxFest.  No outside items.  Seriously.  If you want Bo to sign a different item, he won’t.   I understand this for a couple reasons.

It’s how he makes his nut.

Bo’s career was short, he didn’t make a bunch of money from sports.  Endorsements?  Maybe.  But it’s a nice retirement package charging $100+ a signature.  I respect that.

People sell his stuff, why can’t he?

I get that too.  I would be pissed if I did something that commanded a certain value and I didn’t get my share.  It’s just the way it is.  I don’t fault him for that.


Why are we talking about this? In case you missed it, the Sox released the first official Bo Jackson bobblehead.  It’s a beaut.  You can purchase it here from the Sox. Part of the money goes to charity, good cause. I bought a bunch at the game.  I have a pretty big bobble collection and collect mostly White Sox. I trade with other people and Bo is a huge figure in the bobble world.  In my limited experience with this bobble game, the cheapest the bobble will ever be is when it first comes out.  As time goes by the price goes up due to less being available.  That has been sorta skewed as more people are buying more to sell, so the market stays flooded longer than it had been a few years before.  I have written about bobbles before, you can read that here.


Do I sell bobbles for profit?  Absolutely.  I take risks buying multiple tickets, multiple bobbles, all in the hopes it will go up in price.  Sometimes you cash in early, sometimes it takes time.  I usually hold onto stuff, most of the time it works, sometimes it doesn’t.  I have lost money, but I have also made enough money to make it worthwhile to take these calculated risks.  So yeah, I saw this Bo as chance to trade for some harder to get items and maybe sell a few.

The White Sox being the White Sox sold this online before they did at the park.  Which kinda sucks if you go to games.  I know the idea is to sell them, but don’t you want people at the park? I think that more people would make the trip over or in to pickup this bobble this weekend.  Sell it online after the first weekend it is available, but let us fans that go regularly get treated special.

If you don’t know, for people that check in with the MLB Ballpark App the Sox give out prizes when you show up.  The give you a free shirt for 1 check in, which is awesome.  Great to give the kids and adults something to bring home.  But as you get more and more check in’s,  the prizes get better.  For 50 games you get a Golden Chris Sale bobble head.  A few weeks ago, before the 50 home game mark, they gave out the bobbles to people that Tweeted something.  Seriously?  The guys making it to 50 games don’t get it first?  Just rubs me (and other collectors) the wrong way.  I don’t fault them, but it just feels like we got slighted in this case.

So yesterday, I posted some Bo’s online.  I posted them before I got them because, ‘Merica.  I was the first listed, and yep, it was listed at a high price.  If you don’t know about Ebay, listed prices are not selling prices.  Just because I listed it for $125, doesn’t mean I got that for it when (and if) it sold.  I have been selling stuff on Ebay for years, I buy stuff that way too.  I sold 1, for much less than my $125 asking price, but enough to make it worth my time.  Within hours more and more people listed for much less than me, but all still higher than the asking price from the Sox.  That’s business.  That’s how it works.

Thursday night, I got a text with an article about the Bo bobble.  Bo was quoted saying this-

He was not happy to see one for sale for $125 online Thursday morning. As a result, he said he won’t be signing them. “The thing that bothers me is we do this for a good cause but you have those hustlers out there that buy them and put them online,” he said.

My childhood hero, the guy who hawked stuff that I bought, called me a hustler in the Trib.  Fucking badass.  What is a hustler?  The FIRST definition is “an enterprising person determined to succeed; go-getter.”  Wow.  Bo Jackson recognizes my talent and he doesn’t even know me!  (Well, we’ve met once, but I doubt I made any impression on him.)  Other definitions are not as nice, but reselling something at a higher price than it is offered in other places isn’t illegal.  It shouldn’t even be looked down upon.  Just like professional athletes making as much money as they can, they should be a hustler too.  Get you some.  I am all for it.  We as fans shouldn’t bitch either, we support it.

What I don’t like is him using that as an excuse on why he won’t sign them when he wasn’t gonna sign them anyways.  Why was Bo on Ebay looking up his bobblehead? Why does he even care?  I think the author told him about it, but come on Bo, you wouldn’t have signed them anyways and I don’t fault you for that.  I know he has signed custom bobbles before, wasn’t happy about them, but he did it cause he was paid to do it.  So, maybe if you pay him he will still sign it for you.  But if he doesn’t and I ruined this for everyone, sorry guys.  But right now I am the silent fall guy for my childhood hero.  And that is fine, I will do that for you Bo.  I owe ya for all the years of entertainment.

MidSeason Grades from the 108

Midseason Grades
A couple of footnotes to the grades, Chorizy-E went with Pass/Fail as he believes that is how everything should be graded.  MSS offered up an “Incomplete” for Twitter, as he doesn’t believe much in Twittering.
Beer Vendors
Over in the 108, this is easily the most important grade. We got this shit on lockdown.  Hell, BeefLoaf and Slumpbuster have our regular beer guys on speed dial so they don’t waste their precious time coming by till be get there.  Brian, James and Richard are top notch and take great care of us.  However, if you are sitting in the upper deck…it is a bad area….a wasteland if you will.  Easily lost multiple sales because they NEVER come around.  Sometimes we save money on tickets to buy beer folks, but if we don’t have the opportunity to purchase, well, yeah.  So treat the “up high guys” the same as the lowers.
Fans (in stadium)
Wow.  We went from selling 100k tickets in a week, to listing 1000 tickets a day on StubHub.  The fans were awesome when we were winning, not so much when the drecks of the bad losing streak hit.  We don’t expect full houses anytime soon.  White Sox fans in the stadium actually know the game better than you might think, we like to think 99% of fans are just there to eat hot dogs and drink beer, which is mostly correct, but the 108’ers tend to run into people who actually have a clue and who are very social.  Especially opposing team fans, which is always questionable………unfortunately, too many of you still engage in the wave, which is the equivalent of having AOL as your internet provider or  asking someone to fax you some information.  The wave may have been fun/cool at some point, but that point is 20 years in our rear view, now its equal parts obnoxious and pointless.  If you don’t believe me, watch our video here.  Overall, White Sox fans are generally friendly and conversational, with the occasional fall down drunk (more occasional in the 108).
White Sox Twitter
I’m a big fan of the White Sox Twitter community.  They’re very active and unlike most social media, I see people actually asking questions and getting solid answers.  This builds a more informed, more cohesive fan base.  Of course there are some complete lunatics, but it’s the internet, so that’s gonna happen.  But, White Sox Twitter also clearly suffers from bipolar disorder…….one minute, Sox are the best team in baseball, the next, they should get contracted Expos style………Tyler Saladino is the equivalent of the Bears backup QB, everyone knows he isn’t very good, but they still want him in the lineup at all costs, even at DH………..the group is very split on JB Shuck, the sane folks know he really sucks and shouldn’t play everyday, the unsane would like him out there at all costs…… fairness, this is what you have to work with when you watch 162 baseball games of a mediocre team.  White Sox Twitter has been really on point with the fans’ feelings of the team, they make the game viewing experience very fun, even when the team sucks.  I think collectively, as a group, we need to work in Crying Jordan more, but that is just me.
Robin Ventura
Like a wet luke warm towel in a locker room, RV is still around.  Is it luke warm cause it was recently pissed on?  Maybe.  Cause it wasn’t fully dry when it came out of the dryer?  Maybe.  Why are we talking about towels?  Cause they are far more interesting than RV and his managing style.  Just read this article to get the unabridged version of what we think of RV.
Rick Hahn
We are fans of Rick Hahn, but trying to figure out “the Plan” is sort of like following the plot of True Detective 2, you think you sort of almost have it and then Jimmy Rollins and Mat Latos die and you are back to square one.  To his credit he has discarded his old and broken toys for other people’s old and broken toys……..ah, who are we kidding, if it weren’t for Tim Anderson, this team would be trending down towards the Twins, which is possibly what they need, but right now, we want to watch them play well.  There is so little depth on this team, someone has to take the blame for that.  If you lose the CF you picked up 30 seconds before the season started, the whole team should not fall to pieces, and we certainly should not have to watch JB Shuck.  Not to mention you rostered Jerry Sands for what seemed to be forever.  We think Hahn was in a weird spot this year, between trying to compete and keep the White Sox 3 high draft picks………..think in that respect, he mostly did what he could, but again the team is in the dreggs of the middle class (we know, we know, the middle class is gone in the US).
The Organization
Rough one.  They try so fucking hard. we are friends with many folks in the front office in all different areas. We would say overall, this year has been pretty smooth so far. We feel like they have had some solid giveaways.  The t-shirts have been bomb, wish it was a Monday not a Thursday, but whatevs.  Lots of folks are getting there to get them.  They have started doing special tickets for special bobbleheads too, which we love.  We also love that they discount the tickets.  We also love that MSS does make us go through the line a bunch of times to get extras. MSS really hope this continues and they offer this for the regular release bobbles too.  Even the red shirts have done a better job this year.   The organization hasn’t really pissed me off and they are clearly trying to make positive changes.
Jason Benetti is carrying this sorry group.  He is a breath of fresh air and he is already making the broadcast 100x better with new segments and fun interactive stuff for the fans (even if we realize that @ssspnoles and @cswear12 have the cheat code for #SoxMath).  He also allows Steve Stone to actually talk and they actually interact in a fun way.  Especially like the one inning a game where Jason really gets to break Stoney’s balls about how bad he did against certain hitters from his past.  We suspect that Benetti will get stolen by ESPN or MLB Network at some point, so we should really try to enjoy this while it lasts.  One negative point against Benetti, he dissed us with our welcome sign and never acknowledged it on TV.  That ain’t cool.
Steve Stone is still good, not as good as he used to be, but that is only because with the pervasiveness of advanced stats that help the average fan understand the game better.
Hawk is done, but we get so many insane quotes from him, we can deal with it for the rest of the year.  His main highlights of the year have been when he couldn’t see if a ground rule double (aka bounce home run) was a homer or a double and had to ask Stoney (mind you, he has a monitor 3 inches from him that he could look at) and when he left the booth for an inning to check on Todd Frazier when Frazier got hurt in Texas.  He’ll probably blame the umps for this bad rating we are giving him.
Farmio and DJ are a good listen if you think of them as an old married couple.  I think that’s what they’re going for, so I’ll pretend it’s on purpose……….however, if your intention was to actually know what is going on in the game they aren’t such a good listen………..when they actually do talk about the game, Farmio rarely knows wtf is going on and often gives incorrect information.  DJ would probably be better off with a better partner, because Farmio is slipping big time, but considering it is the White Sox, they’ll probably extend him for another 5 years.
We love the ballpark app (except for the feature that allows you to order food, because that food shan’t arrive, EVAR). We love that they give you stuff for checking in.  Sadly, this year it has been mostly bullshit.  Last year we had free apps at ChiSox every weekend it seemed.  And those coupons were good till the end of the season.  Now they are only good for that game.  So if BigUns buys us all pretzels or something in the 8th, we still have to go get the free apps even if we aren’t that hungry for wings (which is rare, but can happen).  Yes, they lost a TON of money on that promo last year from the 108.  But guess what?  We also bought a TON of tall boy High Life’s at $7 each.  Seriously.  We can buy a case of High Life for $3 more.  A case! So give me some free fucking wings!
On another note, one of the goals of Ballpark App is at 50 check in’s, you get a Golden Chris Sale Bobblehead. Which is awesome.  What is not awesome is that they GAVE THE DAMN THINGS AWAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA NIGHT IN THE TWITTER VENDING MACHINE. So all the guys who have been going to every game  just got scooped by some douche that tweeted “Go Sox! 456789”  That was cold guys, especially since we are only in the 40’s for home games.  You could have waited, but in true Sox fashion, blew the load early.
New scoreboard is nice, but that’s about it.  They’re trying to do more with social media, but there is not much of interest there.  There is still not a way to use a credit card with vendors.  They do very little to go about seeing what their season ticket holders spend in the stadium or what they spend it on.  There are a lot of improvements to be made across the MLB in terms of in-stadium technology and you think they would lead the way since they have so many games as opposed to a sport like football.  But they do not.  Good news though, Comiskey Cash is still a thing, for some stupid reason.

Happy 69th Birthday Steve Stone!!!


If you grew up in Chicago in the 80’s you have been watching and listening to Steve Stone your entire life.  He left baseball in 1981, but by 1983 he was full-time in the Cubs booth paired with the legendary Harry Caray……….one side note, I know this is a White Sox blog, but when you are my age, you didn’t have a lot of choice but to watch Cubs baseball as a kid even as a Sox fan…………the Cubs played predominantly day games (during the summer when we were kids, there was no internet, so this was the best thing to watch) and when they weren’t day games, they usually started at 6pm (road games in the old NL East).  Also, all games were televised on WGN…… you could actually watch them………..the White Sox played predominantly night games, including a big chunk of games on the West Coast and a lot of those games, I could not watch, as I did not have Sportsvision……….but I digress…….


Wherever or whenever you caught Stone doing a ball game, you were getting the best an analyst had to offer, someone who thought the game deeply and gave the fans an educational experience.  One of the most fun things about Stone is he liked to test his acumen against the actual events, by trying to predict what move or pitch would work best.  A fun game that fans generally enjoy.  He also pulled no punches, which is evidenced by him leaving the Cubs booth for good at the end of the 2004 season.  Nothing like an analyst that is willing to take some risk for his opinions (gfy ESPN analysts).


Stone has also shared the booth with two legends of the business…….two play by play guys that had unique personalities (so to speak) and has managed to weather those storms and still provide the fans with top notch analyst work.


So, happy birthday Steve Stone!!  Hope you are knocking back a stogie or two, possibly placing a wager on the ponies to enjoy your special day.

– BeefLoaf