The Dodgers & The ‘Stros Saved The (MY) World. (Kinda)

Tonight begins one of the most anticipated World Series’ in our lifetime.  Not necessarily because of who is playing but rather who ISN’T playing.  My poor little social media life couldn’t have handled a Yanks vs. Cubs World Series.  No way, no how.  So tonight as I settle in and drink an IPL (Lawnmower Lager from Baderbrau) I will enjoy this series almost as much as 2005.  Thanks for saving my world Justin Verlander.

Can you imagine how the press would have ramped up the coverage if it was NY vs CHI?  Oh my God.  Talking about HISTORY. America’s Teams.  Lapping at the balls of Aaron Judge, tossing Anthony Rizzo‘s salad.  And even though he was 2 for 26 during the playoffs, Javy Baez would be talked about more than a guy who actually deserves the praise.  It would be vile folks.  Kyle Schwarber would be mentioned in the same sentence as Babe Ruth and that is fucked up.

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A Yankees vs Dodgers series would have been awful as well, but that wouldn’t have fucked up my world as much.  The East Coast vs West Coast rivalry would have been renewed but with Judge and Kershaw leading the coasts.

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Wanna know how bad it got in Chicago?  I had ZERO idea that the NFL season had even started because we were being force fed Cubs stories.  I saw several shows giving the tour of the Cubs clubhouse, talking about raising beer prices, Joe Maddon rambling about rules that suck when they go against his guys, ALL while they were getting SPANKED by the Dodgers.  EVERYONE still thought it was possible for the Cubs to come back from 3-0 to win the series.  Clearly most media outlets were more focused on their next story rather than the story that was developing right in front of them.  Which was the complete annihilation of the Cubs.

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Now that the Cubs are out, and the Bears have won 3 games, holy hell we are a BEARS TOWN NOW!  Bulls suck (so bad that they beat up each other), the Blackhawks will make some noise later when the Bears are out. We don’t get that excited about early season hockey here, unless we are celebrating a Stanley Cup victory.

So thank you Houston Astros – Official Sidechick Of The 108 – for knocking down the Yankees.  Thank you Los Angeles Dodgers – Eh, Whatevs – for demolishing the Cubs 11-1 in Game 5 so we Sox fans could remember (and rub in that loss) using the EXACT RECORD the 2005 team ramped up on their way to a World Series title. Enjoy it folks, cause that will be us in a few year with any luck.  Can’t fucking wait.

Have some thoughts?  Tweet them at us @fromthe108. We’d love to hear from ya.

We also have some projects in the works that we will be announcing soon.  As ‘Loaf says “There is no offseason for the 108’ers”.  Well he might not have said that, but his constant demands that we keep producing content at a feverish pace seem to say that.  We love ya ‘Loaf.

Go ‘Stros! But still a BIG F U to this guy!

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-MSS

@mysoxsummer

 

Avi Garcia – Trade, Extend or Nothing….

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In the 15 months or so that we have been writing in this space, I think we have probably written about Avi Garcia too much.  Whether it be to talk about WHY the White Sox continue to give him chances, or to make fun of him for sneaking under 260 lbs as a playing weight.  The 108ers are intrigued by Avisail Garcia.  The other night, I ran a Twitter poll of our followers and there isn’t a general consensus on what the White Sox should do with Avi Garcia

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So, I figured, as any blogger with a mediocre offering might do, I would breakdown the potential actions….

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TRADE

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The whole thought that Avi could be traded was kicked off via a rumor, of course, it was a Cafardo, so it is likely to have no basis in reality.  I remember when Sam Smith used to write for the Bulls and he would make up trade scenarios, at least he wrote them in a way in which, you knew he was just making something up and it was fun.  Nowadays these fucking guys make up shit and then blasted it out there like it is reality.  It’s a bunch of BS.  Anywho, so, Cafardo noted that the Cardinals were looking at Garcia and a few other power hitting RF’s.  I looked up and down the rest of the playoff contenders and pretenders and truthfully didn’t see much in the way of a team that really needs a RF.  The only other team that looked appetizing to me, were the Mets, but not for this year, they’ll start clearing off the Granderson and Bruce contracts at the end of the year, they could probably use a young controllable (at least for 2 years) RF to help out in their competitive window.  Besides those two teams, you got me.

Truthfully though, I don’t need to find a suitor, if Avi is to be traded, someone will emerge. I am just in need of finding a prospective value back in trade.  Avi is tough to compare given that he’s had 3 pretty blech seasons and now 3 pretty excellent months.  He’s still not walking a lot, but the “walking a lot” folks need to go fuck off, you can be a plenty valuable player with power and high contact rate.  The two most comparable trades from last deadline are the Mets trading for Bruce and the Rangers trading for Beltran.  The Bruce deal netted the Reds Dilson Herrera who was a top 10 prospect in the Mets system, but graduated from his prospect status and a lottery ticket.  The Beltran deal, which required the Yanks to toss some cash in the nap sack that went along with Carlos to Texas included a top 5 prospect in the Rangers system (Dillon Tate) and top 100 overall and two lesser prospects that were top 10 round picks in the 2014 amateur draft.

In other words, it isn’t likely that an Avisail Garcia trade ends up with much star power included in it.  It is possible that his control with 2 arb years remaining would boost the haul, but it is likely you would just be adding more assets and setting the clock back on those assets.  It is doubtful you line up something with as much promise as say, I dunno, 2013 Avisail Garcia.  If trade is the answer, it may be a signal that the competitive window is a little further away (say, starting in 2020) and that the White Sox need more assets that start arriving then.

EXTEND

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This is a tough one, as Garcia has 2 arb years left.  For the 2017 season he netted a 1 yr $3M deal before going to arbitration.  Truthfully, he was pretty terrible heading into his 1st arbitration year and still got $3M.  Arbitration is pretty kind to giving raises if someone could, oh, I dunno, put up a .900 OPS season.  You might expect Avi to pick up a $3M to $4M raise in 2018 and a similar one in 2019.  Which would put Avi’s salaries at say $7M in 2018 and $11M in 2019, the White Sox would need to buy those out and then buy out some portion of free agency.

I think the closest thing to Avi in estimated value might be someone like Mark Trumbo who got 3 yrs 37.5M.  Truthfully, if you think Avi is actually this Avi, he’s much better than Mark Trumbo, so maybe Ian Desmond‘s 5yrs $70M is closer to accurate.  Let’s assume if you extend Avi (and the extension would have to occur around now or at least before he puts in an entire season of being a 3 to 4 win player) that the extension would be for 5 yrs and $75M (buying out arb years 2018 & 2019) and then signing him through  2022 (his age 31 season).  Avi might feel some loyalty towards the White Sox and get something like this done.  Or, he might realize that he goes to free agency at 28 and could make more money than this when he does.

NOTHING

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This is the best action in my opinion.  I don’t think the market yet believes in the new Avi, making trades tougher and I think it is pretty cost prohibitive to the future competing White Sox teams to possibly fuck up this extension.  I think you let Avi play this out and then in 2018 you re-evaluate.  Maybe he finds his level as a 2 WAR RF and then you decide that he’ll be cheap enough to extend or a valuable enough commodity to trade for a real chip.  With the current expiring assets on the roster, I think Rick Hahn has his hands full trying to unload everything that isn’t nailed down for something of future value.

 

– BeefLoaf

The Rebuild is Happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thank you baby Jesus.

It finally happened!!  It is your buddy BeefLoaf…….we are back again, and Rick Hahn has exceeded my expectations on the Chris Sale trade.  First off, he seems to have played his hand perfectly and gotten the best prospect in baseball (Yoan Moncada)…………he also got rid of the one piece that will finally force this rebuild, I’m elated.  I am not going to spend any time going over the prospect haul as you can find that information everywhere……….I’m going to address…

WHAT NOW?!?!?!?!

Most of you reading this are probably a little bit sad, I know the White Sox twitter family was mixed as to their level of joy and sadness due to Chris Sale being traded.  I saw people pouring out drinks, I saw people getting irate and frustrated.  I saw people writing about their undying love for Chris Sale and how they want to get a Red Sox Chris Sale jersey (seriously, that’s kinda weird, twisted, sick and fucked up, if that was you, delete those tweets before I send the authorities after you, because you might deserve a restraining order).  Anyway, if you are sad, spend a little time wearing nothing but your K Zone t-shirt and posing in the mirror until you feel a little better, like this guy
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If you are thrilled, like your buddy BeefLoaf, then I suggest an Ickey Woodsesque celebration dance, just pretend you just scored a touchdown OR got some cold cuts and you’ll be set.  I personally stomped around my office like I was the Wiz and nobody beats me.
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You can also dream of a future with the new prospects.  I must admit, I spent some of my afternoon day dreaming that Kenny Williams was hanging Dave Dombrowski off the edge of his balcony just like Suge Knight did to Vanilla Ice, coaxing Moncada into the deal.  It seems like Kenny’s likely best use.
WHAT’S NEXT?
More trades, I expect at least half of the name players to go before spring training and moar to go in July of this year.  My hit list of guys that MUST go   in order.
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I am hoping that the Sox wait until July to trade Melky Cabrera, because we need something fun to watch when this first bad season starts.
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There will also be signings (mostly lol ones) and we are going to want to hope some of those guys play well and can be traded.  Look for the White Sox to hope and pray that Nate Jones and Brett Lawrie play well, so they can trade them this year as well.
ANYTHING ELSE?
Yes, this team is going to be bad, starting in 2017, but hopefully we’ll start seeing some signs of hope early and a competitive team as soon as 2019.  2017 will probably be full of frustrating Avi Garcia at bats, and bullpen meltdowns……….who knows, depending on who gets traded, we might have some gnarly looking veterans sauntering around the field getting paid just above the league minimum to help our White Sox secure a high draft pick.  Like Bart Scott, “CAN’T WAIT!”
LASTLY….
The goal of this whole thing is to bring in the players that make up the core of the next White Sox team that goes to the playoffs.  As of now, there are 4-5 prospective pieces in tow of that next core, Anderson, Rodon, Fulmer, Moncada and Kopech.  Maybe there are more here, but Rick Hahn’s job isn’t done, more trades and last years, this years and next years drafts are going to go a long way to putting together the pieces of the next White Sox team that is a perennial contender, the teams of 2019-2023.  Yesterday was the beginning of the rest of our lives as White Sox fans, so let’s enjoy it for a moment and get ready for a few lean years, because they are coming………..as they say, it will get worse before it gets better (actually, the only person I can think of saying this is Dalton in Road House).

– BeefLoaf

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I’m The Jerk That Wants The Sox To Sign A-Rod

Wait, What?

So in case you haven’t been paying attention, two things are going on:

  1. The Yankees are paying Alex Rodriguez about $27MM to GTFO.
  2. The Sox are a raging dumpster fire that should be shooting for a top 10 pick in 2017.

All this said, let’s add A-Rod to the dumpster fire.  I can see you there, you don’t like it, but I don’t care.  I want to see this happen.

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Why would you want this?

It’s kind of the White Sox way to pick up a player that was once great, that is barely usable now.  Think Manny, Griffey, Rollins, Canseco, Andruw Jones, and on and on and on.  So this wouldn’t even be out of character for the Sox.  In addition to this, A-Rod is 4 HR short of 700.  I don’t care how many asterisks you throw at it, I’d love to be in the park for someone, anyone’s 700th HR.  And the Sox can use the bump in attendance that would bring, so they can have extra cash to NOT spend in free agency.  It would also require a DH platoon.  This is something so ridiculous, that once again, I want to see it.  I mean, the season is over, let’s have some fun with this.

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Lastly, I believe we’ll have time travel in my lifetime.  Not Darren Daulton, crazy person time travel, but real time travel.  And I’m such a dick, I’d really just like to go see 2007 Chorizy-E and tell him that the Sox will have A-Rod, Morneau, and Rollins in the same season.  I won’t let him know, they’ll be absolutely terrible.

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How would you even roster this?

I will admit, it is not easy to have 2 DH on the same team.  But by sending down Shuck and Sanchez (sorry Write Sox) and bringing up Leury Garcia, you’re there.  Also, having to play A-Rod at 3B in a pinch would be something worth going to the park to see.  It’d be like putting Minnie Minoso in CF in the 1990s.

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But he used PEDs!

I own a Jose Canseco Sox jersey, so obviously this is not an issue for me.  And if PEDs are still somehow an issue for you, you really need to take off the blinders and realize the game you love is completely built on it.  Or did you think that MLB players having ADHD at about 100x the rest of the population is a normal thing?  Do you not know what Greenies are?  Do you think that Jim Thome is the cleanest player ever but played on one of the the dirtiest teams ever?  Yeah, I dragged Thome into it, and deep down you know you should at least question it.  Let’s face it, PEDs aren’t what ruined baseball, it’s why you turned it back on in the late 90s.

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Did you forget about David Segui?

I assume you’ve closed the browser by now.  If you haven’t, stop by the 108 when there’s a lefty on the mound, and you want to catch the opposite field 700th HR off A-Rod’s bat.   I’ll be there drinking a few of my performance enhancers.

– Chorizy-E