The One Hitter – Honest Lies

This is the One-Hitter, don’t forget to exhale.  The last several days have been a lot of fun in White Sox twitter, with reporters hurling barbs at each other from their respective sources all in the name of providing us with the latest and greatest on Manny Machado’s free agency.  EVERYONE has an opinion on who is right and who is wrong and it often depends on your personal narrative of who you believe.  The 108ers don’t tend to worry about these mudslingings unless there is an opportunity for some comedy…..OR if there is a lesson to be learned from the ordeal.  Yea, a lesson.  What if everything everyone is saying is true, or at least shades of truth or better yet, as true as their perspective source is telling them.  Maybe each group of “journalists” (if we can call them that) are getting information that is factual enough to be believed, but isn’t quite telling the entire story.  No I do not have any light to shed on Manny Machado, but another narrative that I have heard 57,000 times this off-season did finally peak my interest enough to look into it.

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The Cleveland Indians are looking to cut payroll, they  had their largest payroll ever in 2018, while winning the AL Central for the 3rd straight time and what did the Indians fans do, they came to the ballpark less in 2018, than they did in 2017.

I’ve heard that bandied about the aforementioned 57,000 times this off-season and it finally got me to investigate.  Everything in that headline is factually accurate, but the conclusion is less so.  The implication is that the gate receipts at the ballpark decreased so Indians management has no fucking choice but to reduce payroll by trying to trade one of their more salaried players.  Hang on, peep this little article about average ticket prices

2018 Cleveland Indians average ticket price

See the table below sketching out what revenues might look like…..sure attendance is down overall (which sounds like a reason to cut payroll), but revenue appears to be up (this is an estimate).  So while all the FACTS are correct in the italicized conglomeration of the headlines folks are trotting out about the Indians, I am not sure the conclusion ties in.

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The Indians want to cut payroll, well, because they want to cut payroll.  I guess saying it like that won’t get the whole twitterverse a buzz.

-BeefLoaf

The 108 Interview Series – Lauren Nisavic

Here at the 108, it is our job….our duty to bring to you the great personalities of White Sox twitter, either via tweet / photo / video or blog post.  In continuing with the tradition of bringing you “the goods” from White Sox twitter we have our interview with the great and powerful Lauren Nisavic (@LaurenNisavic on twitter).

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Before I start I’d like to thank all of you guys at Section 108 for highlighting me on your blog. As a fan I truly support your entertaining, personality-driven content, unique voices you each bring and of course #108ing.

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Favorite Game That You Were At

Easy. Game 1 of the 2005 World Series. We didn’t go on vacation that year because my dad got us tickets to the game.

Favorite All Time Player That Doesn’t Have a Statue On the Concourse

Mark Buehrle. He deserves more than a statue. Give the man a street named after him.

Nancy Faust is an honorable mention.

Favorite Drink and Dinner at the Park

Beer, nacho helmet, soft pretzel (with salt and mustard on the side)

Favorite Place to Sit

I honestly don’t think there’s a bad seat at the park as long as you’re in good company.

Favorite Uniform

Bring back the vests.

Favorite Giveaway

My favorite giveaway would have to be the Hawk Harrelson alarm clock. It was annoying at first listening to them going off around the park (Why would they include batteries?), but it makes an awesome addition to my apartment.

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What is the worst part of being a Sox fan?

The worst part about being a Sox fan is having not made the postseason since 2008.

What really grinds your gears?

The wave really pisses me off.

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Most memorable experience as a White Sox fan 

Where to start?? I have so many memorable experiences as a White Sox fan. I grew up about 10-15 minutes away from the park and almost weekly, and every time on a whim, my dad would ask if I wanted to go maybe 30 minutes prior to first pitch. I’d run to my room and grab a hat or shirt- whatever I could find- along with my “White Sox” CD that I burned a bunch of my dad and my favorite songs on (lotta Sinatra) and we’d listen to it on the way to the park. We went to a lot of games leading up to the 2005 World Series and he treated me to game 1 when I knew he probably couldn’t really afford it. I remember him telling me it might be the only opportunity in his lifetime he’d see this happen live. I’m hoping that’s not the case, Dad 🙂

*Dad don’t read this next part*

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Also getting an annual group together to go the Bullpen Bar and bringing a sharpie for each of us to keep track of how many beers we could down before first pitch. I wish I could remember the record.

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**Ok, Dad, you can read again**

Another memorable moment for me was Paul Konerko’s grand slam in game 2 of the 05 WS. How could you forget it. I was screaming in my living room and jumping around while watching the game with my dad who was just standing there in awe and fist pumping like he was Tiger Woods sinking a putt.

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This past summer I was working on our weekly show in the studio and couldn’t physically go to the Arnold Palmer Invitational in Orlando and was pretty bummed since I heard A.J. Pierzynski was going to be there doing some broadcasting for our PGA TOUR Live team. Well it turns out my roommate at the time (who knows/knew nothing about baseball) did some type of project with him at the tournament one day- she didn’t know who he was other than he played baseball and lived nearby. She called me up later on in the evening and asked if I knew him and I lost my mind. I was like “DUDE, I’m texting you questions to ask him you NEED to find him tomorrow and do an on camera interview.” I sent her a bunch of questions and she sent me back footage the next day. I featured AJ in my show that week for no reason other than c’mon it’s AJ and I’m a White Sox fan. My coworkers questioned my work and my motive and I’m totally ok with it. No regrets.

When I moved down to Florida a year and a half ago my mom made me go through all the stuff I had been storing in their basement for years. I stumbled upon an old scrapbook I made when I was a little girl of all of my White Sox ticket stubs, print articles I cut out and glued onto pages with stickers, pictures and other cute kid stuff I collected from games. It was a reminder of how the team has been such a prominent part of my life and especially childhood- it put a smile on my face since I completely forgot the book existed.

Last one- This past summer I was working producing at the Wells Fargo Championship in Charlotte, NC and one of my projects that week was to ride along and go with TOUR player Harold Varner III and capture him driving into the park and throwing out the first pitch at the Knights game. It was really cool to be on the field that night and it was the first time I saw Michael Kopech pitch in person since I was allowed to stay for the game if I wanted. As a lifelong Sox fan, it was really cool to see my two worlds of golf and baseball come together like that. If you haven’t been to BB&T Ballpark you should consider going! It’s a gorgeous park and Charlotte is a fun city with some great breweries.

Feelings on the wave? 

No. Look- I get that it might be fun for kids, but it’s terrible because…

1)    It means you’ve given up on watching the game

2)    It means your team is probably losing

3)    You look like an idiot when singled out

4)    It’s distracting to the players

5)    It’s annoying to people trying to watch the game

6)    There’s a good chance you’ll spill your beer if you’re still holding on it

7)    You look like an idiot

Which Gate is your favorite to enter the park from?

My favorite gate is gate 4. My family has a brick in that 05 shrine area. I like to go look at it.

How Early Do You Get To Games?

Depends on when the tailgate starts

What Do You Bring To Games? 

My bag, usually some candy, a coozie and my Aaron Rowand jersey

Section 108 Questions

What is your favorite baseball word?

STRETCH

What is your least favorite baseball word?

Dag Gummit

What gets you excited about the White Sox?

-The [near]future of the team.

-Michael Kopech’s tweets.

-Hot stove rumors—no really, it’s been a while since the White Sox were in headlines for the right reasons in consecutive offseasons.

-Deadspin articles hating on the sox. No really, it’s cool to know you’re doing something worth hating on.

-Listening to Section 108.

-The marketing department and how focused they are on the fan experience.

What sound or noise at the ballpark do you love?

I have several favorite sounds at the ballpark and they include: the Pirates of the Caribbean song, the song “Thunderstruck”, a solid crack of a white sox bat, fireworks, the cha cha slide beat.

What is your favorite Hawkism?

I don’t know if I can call it my favorite, but I have incorporated the phrase “what are you doing, Wegner?!” into my everyday vocabulary and I don’t think anyone really picks up on it which doesn’t make it funny, but I’ll never not say it when questioning why someone did something dumb.

You work for the PGA TOUR, correct?  What professional golfer do you think you could most likely get to wear a #108ing shirt?

Yes, I work for the PGA TOUR as a tv producer on the long form team. Our most recent project was for ESPN-and called Tiger Woods: The Return of the Roar, a 90-min doc on Tiger’s comeback in 2018. Sorry for the shameless plug but the team crushed it on that one.

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I don’t want to speak for one of our players because I’m sure they’d all love a free #108ing shirt, but I can say I’m sure every single person at the Waste Management Phoenix Open would wear one.

Do you have any favorite parts of your job working in sports?

My favorite part of the job is that I get to watch and live sports and get paid for it. It’s a dream come true. I’ve had the opportunities to work for the Chicago Bears, NBC Sports Chicago, Big Ten Network, Fox 32 and now the PGA TOUR. It’s been awesome to take my passion for sports and combine it with my love for storytelling and now able to share so many cool stories throughout the years with fans.

The 108ers have daughters ranging in age from 8 mos to 9 years old, what advice would you give them about advancement in a male dominated profession?

Honored you’d ask this! The advice I give other ladies looking to get into a male dominated field is this- I’d say study, know your stuff and stay confident. Surround yourself with people who want to see you succeed. You might have to work a little harder to prove yourself because you are a female, I’m not saying it’s right- it’s just my experience. There are always going to be assholes, don’t let them get under your skin- they’re just insecure. If someone is creepy- tell HR. Don’t date people you work with.

The 108ers don’t golf, if you had to coach one of us up on golfing to win a bet of some sort, who would it be (Chorizy, MySoxSummer or BeefLoaf)?

First of all you would not want me to coach you in golf. But I’d take MySoxSummer in a driving contest.

Best Golf film?

Tiger Woods: Return of the Roar (HAHA SORRY HAD TO)

You recently had a serious illness, how are you?

I did have a freak illness recently. I’m doing better tysm for asking. I only have 60% of my lung on my right side but it’s cool. They found a benign tumor in one of my airways and ended up having to take a chunk of my lung out- five total incisions BUT they saved my tattoo (Chicago flag/skyline) AND I should be back to normal in 6mon-1year. Could’ve been a lot worse.

What was more inspirational in your recovery, the love and compassion of your family and close friends or Eddie Barstool getting himself hospitalized out of pure empathy?

Eddie is my guy. Such a gentleman. Really knows how to take one for the team to boost moral. No really I’m glad he’s doing ok.

Honestly thought my friends and family were so supportive and helpful during what was a really physically painful and mentally taxing process and I couldn’t have done it without them. Also Eddie O. gave me a get well shoutout the night of my operation and when I heard it, I cried I was so touched the NBC Sports team would go out of their way for me like that. I have great friends.

You took a gorgeous pic of some of the 108ers at a tailgate this past summer, any tricks you can share with people about taking bomb ass fucking pictures with a phone?

So many compliments! Some tips for good photo taking would be to follow the rule of thirds, lighting is what really matters and if you’re the subject of the photo- be mindful of your posture.

Do you have any favorite #108ing stories you’d like to share, ballpark or otherwise?

There was a guy at that tailgate you mentioned who chugged a beer out of his prosthetic leg TWICE.

What’s your greatest fear about the “rebuild”? 

That somewhere down the road we hire another manager who was a former player.

That Moncada could strikeout 215+ times again in a season in the years to come.

What is there about this team that excites you the most?

That Moncada might not strikeout 215+ times in a season in the years to come.

Possibly signing Machado.

Eloy’s going to be mashing in the majors soon.

Favorite White Sox Twitter Account (Besides @fromthe108) and why?

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White Sox Dave (@WSDBarstool) is my guy. He has been a great friend over the years and we’ve always supported each other for the same reasons I support you guys!

What do you like best about @fromthe108 ?

The best part about @fromthe108 would be your voices and how fan driven you are without it feeling forced or lame. Also- how you’re all pretty normal and nice dudes in real life and how easily that translates through your social media/blog.

Favorite White Sox related blog or podcast and why?

Section 108, because duh.

What is your favorite alcoholic drink for #108ing?  Be specific and feel free to go with more than one if you need to.  What about your favorite beer style?

My favorite alcoholic beverage for #108ing is beer and what kind depends on where I am and what time of the year it is.

In the summer, I generally go for something a little lighter or a saison or nice unfiltered farmhouse ale.

In the fall and winter I like anything from Revolution and you can never go wrong with a Lagunitas IPA. I’ll often get a Guiness draft if it’s snowing. Idk why.

I’m currently #108ing with a Fat Tire that my dad left here for me to drink when I started to feel better after surgery.

Where would you take @GasMoneyBob out on a date?

Hey dere, Bob. Portillos?

Favorite performance enhancing drug?

HAha wut. Does caffeine count?

Who do you hate more Jim Belushi or John Cusack?

I don’t hate neither Jim nor John since neither have ever done me wrong, but I won’t watch anything with either of the Cusacks. Sorry.

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What Other Chicago Teams Do You Enjoy 

da Bears and Blackhawks

Favorite Chicago Sports History Moment 

Ones I’ve been alive for?

2005 Chicago White Sox World Series

The parade that followed.. fun story. I was a sophomore in high school (Argo) in 05 and my parents called me out of school sick and took me to the parade downtown. I still have some confetti 🙂

2010, 2013 & 2015 Stanley Cup runs

Corey Crawford’s speech at the rally

Favorite All-Time Sox Broadcaster 

Obv. Hawk

Any Stories About Running Into or Meeting White Sox Players? Other Chicago Athletes?

I’ve had the opportunity to work with several guys over the years and seeing that it’s my job I don’t typically act or behave any differently than I would talk to my friends or coworkers. BUT there was one exception where I fan girled pretty hard.

I was working part time during my freelancing days at CSN (now NBC Sports Chicago) and was using someone’s desk in the newsroom since I didn’t have my own. The desk was right near the back entrance door- the door itself was one of those heavy metal doors with the small wired window near the top. Anyways- one day I’m sitting at the borrowed desk and hear a pounding on that door. I look up and see Frank Thomas’ face in that tiny window and just stared at him until I realized who it was. He looked at me like “Um, hello??” and I was like “Oh shit. I gotta go open the door for Frank Thomas.”

I walk over there, open the door and he says hello and introduces himself. His hand was 3x the size of mine and I thought he was going to break it when we shook. I hopped out of his way as he walked through the door into the newsroom and went right toward the desk I was sitting in. He hung up his suit jacket that honestly was as big as a picnic blanket on the cubicle wall and asked if it was ok if he kept it there. I might’ve nodded? Idk I didn’t say anything the entire time. I just met my childhood hero and was working on the same show together. It was one of those oh shit I have a cool job moments. I eventually came back to earth but I’ll never get over how much of a loser I was.

Drinking margs and eating pizza with Bill Melton. That guy has got some awesome stories.

Favorite TV Show (or Netflix or HBO or whatever the fuck)?

Big Game of Thrones girl. Also, The Office.

Do you remember your first Sox game?

Yeah. I couldn’t tell you how old I was but I was really little. I remember a drunk guy demanding my sister and I whack him in the head with a glow stick and my dad was cool with it so we did.

What Player had the greatest impact on you?

Paul Konerko. I cried when he retired. He’s probably the biggest single representation of my childhood.

What was the happiest day watching the Sox?

Game 4 of the 2005 World Series

What was the saddest day watching the Sox? 

Too many to count lately

What do you do for work? If you could be or do anything else – what?

I produce really cool content and shows for the PGA TOUR that get aired on ESPN, NBC, CBS, ABC and Golf Channel. I basically come up with a story and do all the things in-between having the idea to when you see it on TV. My job involves a lot of travel, interviews, working with an awesome team of producers, photographers and editors.

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I don’t think there’s anything else I’d rather do, except I know what I want to do when I retire. I really, really want to be a soundboard operator at a minor league ballpark. Can you imagine being the reason why thousands of people are clapping along with the cha cha slide beat? I can, and I will have that job one day.

What do you like doing in your spare time? 

Lately I’ve been all about resting- but I like watching golf, baseball, hockey and nfl football. I also like traveling, working out, eating and drinking beer.

What would be your one super power? 

Teleportation for sureeeee

What’s your one biggest pet peeve?

Northsiders that think they’re better than White Sox fans.

Wrigley Field & its construction

When people take things too seriously—like Twitter and any other social media. Also people that have bad hygiene. Dudes that try to slide in my DMs in the weirdest ways.

What’s your one annoying habit?

I have more than one but I’m that person that always asks to take one more picture and then one more and then another- I know it’s annoying and I don’t care 🙂

What ballpark would you like to visit?

AT&T Park- I’ve driven past it half a dozen times and have never been to a game. It looks awesome and the area that surrounds it looks awesome.

$300,000,000 ain’t nuthin’ but a number

Good day friends, it’s your old pal BeefLoaf and I’m ingesting just enough caffeine to keep my lids open and type this here “entry” into the old wordpress machine.  Just like all of yous (this is Bridgeport) I go through fits and starts of being enthused, amused, excited and thrilled, as well as frustrated, annoyed, scared and bored, with the whole MacHarper twitter rumor mill.  As fun as it is to see fake accounts or even real accounts make grand proclamations and then get dunked on until they have to deleted their accounts, it is even more fun for me to see grand proclamations by folks who TELL YOU that Player X won’t sign for X amount of years or less than X amount of money.  OR that the White Sox are idiots if they don’t just immediately write a check for $300M and “GET THIS OVER WITH!”

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I see people with lots of followers writing shit like this, not the average fan that is #108ing by cutting loose eating some Punky’s Pizza and downing some Miller High Life bombers.  I get it, us 108ers have opinions about stuff as well, but you don’t really see us espousing an opinion on this thing at all.  Why?………

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The 108ers have avant garde or even crazy opinions about lots of stuff.  Some of what we spout is just tongue-in-cheek and fun stuff we think will make you laugh (possibly), but other stuff we just tend to think differently than just about everyone else who likes to have opinions on stuff.  That’s where we are at with this negotiation.

Player X (meaning MacHarper) won’t sign for less than X amount of years!!

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This claim is total bullshit and you can safely ignore anyone who says otherwise.  You have no idea what these negotiations look like because not only does the media only have a vague sense of what is being discussed, but we don’t have a good sense of what the limited amount of teams and players actually want.  As much as you don’t like it, the teams have as much control as the players do.  MacHarper aren’t going to sit out the 2019 season waiting for what they want, or will they?  MacHarper may want to play in a certain subset of cities or have a certain long-term plan in mind.  They might want an early escape hatch and the only team willing to provide that only wants to give them a certain amount of years or money.  They just might want the most money possible per season or possibly a wickedly front loaded contract that allows them to get in on the early ownership of an XFL II team.  Nobody really knows and anything we get in the media is hearsay.

Player X won’t take less than X amount of money!!!

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Again, who the fuck knows.  If you only have a limited amount of teams / companies bidding on your services, you only have so much leverage, even if you have a very special set of skills (like MacHarper).  Maybe the 3 teams in the marketplace really do only want to spend X amount on your services.  You can stomp and kick and yell for your $300,000,000 (again, speculation) and never ever get it.  Maybe nobody values your services THAT MUCH.  Are you going to sit out?  Are you going to go on personal strike?  Or are you going to take (some made up estimate below $300,000,000) because it’s the best offer and you’d prefer to use your talents and skills instead of “making a point”.  I think you get the idea.

The White Sox should just write a check for $300,000,000 regardless of what the other teams are offering to get this over with.

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I’ve seen more variants of this than any other thing and it is the most ludicrous thing I have seen.  I know, I know, it’s not my money and I am never trying to save billionaires a couple $20-$30 Mill…..BUT, the White Sox should be trying to hook one of these big fish for the LOWEST amount that they possibly can.  This way, they can allocate the remaining shekels that they didn’t spend on other players that make this franchise into a winner.  I know that’s sort of theory, but it is also practice.  It is okay for the White Sox to “wait it out” and use the resource of “time” to keep the final price of netting a big fish lower, even if it causes you to refresh twitter a couple thousand extra times in the interim.

Hang tight White Sox fans, keep your head on a swivel and always be #108ing, but be aware of folks who’s emotions are getting the best of them (and not in a fun, totally losing their mind way).

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Lastly, if you want to hear more bullshit than you can possibly handle, subscribe to our YouTube channel.  We do post game shows of our podcast that don’t get published anywhere else, and we think you’ll enjoy them.

-BeefLoaf

108 Polls – The City Jersey Battle

Back in the day the topic came up on our new podcast about the White Sox trotting out the retro jerseys all the time. It was also discussed that the players’ weekend jerseys were trash compared to the 2019 NBA city jerseys. Our guy ‘Loaf ran a poll asking the folks what jersey they would like in the 2019 campaign. With no shock to MSS, the Sox fans came through and picked a retro jersey over a city one. ‘Loaf then took the “Steve Jobs Approach” that you folks don’t know what you want ’til you see it. So a drunk MSS boasted that we’d do a battle. He got two of our favorite Twitter graphic designers to submit an entry(s) and even MSS got in the game too. The stage was set for greatness.

Having got his degree in Art (B.A. mofos) from THEE Northern Illinois University and having sat through many art critiques where he bullshitted how “deep” his strongly pornographic art was, MSS has added his comments. Like he’s a professional or some shit.

We give you the 2019 WHITE SOX CITY JERSEY BATTLE!

1st Up – JeffMugs (@jeffmugs)

Jeff’s Take –  With mine, I tried to think of something iconic that everyone from Chicago would recognize, so I did the Hancock design.

MSS Take – Let me just say that the subtle John Hancock Tower reference is fucking dope. As is the Sox silhouette on the black version. Details, I fucking love them. I like the use of the old logos and obviously the Chicago flag colors and elements. Nothing screams Chicago more than that.

Next @soxon35th‘s own B-Son (@bson)

MSS Take – Pants on fucking point. Those are dope AF. I like the use of the late 80’s early 1990 jersey cursive C. Obviously the Chicago flag colors and elements are working well in this version too. And in true BSon fashion, this fucker is complete and looks legit. I mean shoelaces? You slay Bson.

And finally @fromthe108‘s MSS (@mysoxsummer)

MSS Take – So, admittedly, I took a way different approach. I also took FOREVER. These guys cracked theirs out in a matter of days. My original concept was using the White Sox road jersey “Chicago” script but have it say “South Side”. Work that in 3 layers, stack the flag colors, on a black jersey. However no matter how I hard I tried, it just didn’t work. So for some reason Kanye’s “Homecoming” (which was a fave when I was west coastin’) was up in my head so this is what popped out.

I tend to stay kinda minimal, so that is what you see. Subtle blue use, mainly using the red, black and white. Stars used and I brought back the Sox diamond patch that I was a huge fan of on the aways. There could even be an up north version for the Crosstown Classic. I don’t know, I’d like to see these get made for sure.

So Go Vote!

Starting Wednesday (1/16) we are gonna put up a poll(s) and you guys can vote for one of these entries or one of the old retro jerseys. Your call!  Plus maybe ‘Loaf is right, yous don’t know what yous want till you see it. Also, for any designer / artist out there (Zach from New Sox Order, looking your way) that wants to mock up their own version PLEASE FUCKING DO! Tweet it at us and we’ll put ya in the battle!

Special thanks to Jeff and BSon. We appreciate the help and you guys knocked it out the park. Next up, 108 Jersey Design Contest!

-MSS

The 5 – Reasons why you should LOVE Jon Jay

Good day friends, it’s your old pal BeefLoaf and this is the 5, so let’s fucking get to it.  5 Reasons why you should LOOOOOOOOVE the free agent signing of Jon Jay.

5 – He gets ON BASE!

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You heard it here first!!  Jon Jay gets on base more than the incumbents.  Remember Avi Garcia?  Of course you do, he didn’t get on base much last year, only .281 OBP.  How about Adam Engel, everyone’s favorite Gold Glove runner up, what do you think his on base % was in 2018?  .279 OBP.  Jon Jay had a down year and got on base at a .330 clip.  Back in 2017 with the North side Chicago baseball club, Jon Jay got on base at a .374 clip.  Hrmmm, I’m not a mathematician…nor do I play one of those sexy bitches on TV, but I think getting on base more as opposed to less is a positive.

4 – Sara Jay MIGHT be his Stepmom

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Look, I’ll be honest with you, I am never too confident in picking out people’s age.  I know that Jon Jay is 33, and I know that Sara Jay is a stepmom (occasionally), so it would seem reasonable that there is a connection there.  I’m not 100%, but if this ends up checking out, I can predict MySoxSummer will be happy af.

3 – Former Cardinals player

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I don’t know for sure, but I have heard of something called the Cardinals way, and it is supposed to show that you know how to play baseball well and do things the right way.  I suppose Tony LaRussa falling asleep drunk driving at a stop light has been excluded from that, as well as Mark McGwire’s backnee and probably a few others exploits (Oscar Taveras and Josh Hancock).  But mostly, the Cardinals are supposed to be a good basebally organization, so that means we should feel lucky to have him.

2 – He allows YUGE nerds to make Founding Father’s jokes

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You can’t discount any advantage of a free agent signing, even if you personally won’t partake in it.  I’ll admit, I saw some jokes on twitter, unfortunately, I didn’t realize they were jokes, because, I had no clue who John Jay is (blame my Catholic School education K-12 on that shit).  Regardless, those that enjoy that sort of thing, it’s right there for you.  You’d been saving that very pertinent knowledge up all your life, just waiting for a chance to launch that joke and your fucking time has come.  Congrats!

1 – He’s Manny Machado’s bestie

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Look if you are going to sign a top notch free agent, you need his best fucking buddy in the fold to host sleepovers and to play pranks and shit.  He’s the White Sox Jack Haley (the kids younger than 30 are googling “Jack Haley” rn).  If you can’t bring in a guys drinking / going to Chipotle / playing Fortnite buddy, then what fucking good are you?  Rick Hahn is definitely checking boxes here, so to speak.

-BeefLoaf 

Play It Again Bears

As New Year’s Eve has just passed us by, we got to see what is as reliable as the ball drop in NYC.  We once again witnessed Mark Giangreco doing his best Joe Namath impression with Janet Davies acting as Suzy Kolber.  But seeing Janet Davies this year reminded me of something I had not thought about in years.  Probably because most recent years, the Bears’ season was over by 12/31.  But this year it is not and it sparked a memory from the storied 1985 season.  Janet Davies hosted a show on channel 7 called “Play It Again Bears” that was each game of the season to a different music track.  Here’s the clip of their playoff games:

If that doesn’t get you pumped for some Bears playoffs, I don’t know what will.  Unfortunately, I scoured the internet (looked for 5 minutes) and could not find the full show.  You can find most of the clips and they’re pretty bad quality.  So let’s agree to this: If the Bears are still playing at the end of January, Janet Davies should redo this magical show for our current team.

Also, check out that Fencik sack.  It’s not even fair.

-Chorizy-E

The One Hitter – Yoan Moncada is a Free Agent in November 2023

This is the One Hitter, don’t forget to exhale.

Good day friends, it’s your pal BeefLoaf and after a good #108ing sesh last night and some sushi, I wake up this morning brimming with enthusiasm….ENTHUSIASM!?!?!  That’s right, our fucking Bears play tomorrow and they are going to skull fuck the Eagles, but that’s not why you called.  You come here to talk about Baseball and Bullshit, so I’ll, as they say “move it along”.

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In between all of the crazy ass rumors about MacHarper and their expected contract offers and such, we have a budding divide growing amongst large pools of WhiteSox fans, with the 108ers sort of sitting right in the middle.  Group 1 continually points out that the White Sox are behind in their rebuilding efforts based on a myriad of factors, some they can control and some they undoubtedly can’t.  This group believes that because some of the top talent acquired in the Sale and Eaton trades were major league ready that the timeline for the rebuild should be truncated when compared to other “tear it down to the studs rebuilds” like the Cubs and Astros.  Group 2 are the “be patient with the rebuild” folks.  They think that because the majority of the minor league talent that has been accumulated (in numbers) is still floating around in affiliated ball that everyone should hold their fucking horses on when the White Sox should actually be good.

I must admit, I see both group’s points and I sympathize with both.  However, I’m a full season ticket holder and I plan to be in 5 years regardless of which of these groups is correct or not.  I’m a bad example.  Regardless, something is obviously true.

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Yoan Moncada will be a free agent in November 2023 (so will Reynaldo Lopez and Lucas Giolito).  Assuming nothing changes between now and then, the first big GET of the rebuild will be taking offers from other teams after the 2023 season.  Now, one player does not a team make, but if you’ve been going goo-goo and gah-gah about MacHarper rumors then you understand what a big difference superstars make.  Just something for you to keep in mind no matter which group you are in when thinking about “competitive windows” and shit.

-BeefLoaf

The Last Great Trade Chip of the #WhiteSox Rebuild

Good day friends, it’s your old pal BeefLoaf coming at you with my first offering of 2019.  I hope you and yours had a fun / safe NYE and now are ready to tackle 2019 like it’s some prick at a midnight Toys’R’Us sale with the last “Tickle Me Elmo”….that’s right, fuck that guy!

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Anywho, enough of that shit, I want to talk some White Sox and who I consider the last great trade chip of the rebuild.  Before we get there though, what brought this about was a little excel file I was making just tracking team control for some of our young and talented (hopefully) players that are both in Chicago right now and ones who aren’t quite here yet.  I tried to outline who the core of the next great future White Sox team is.  If you are with the “be patient with the Rebuild” folks, than this is probably an exercise you know well.  Or not.  Regardless, the exercise is harder than you might think, the guys who are in Chicago don’t exactly look like a strong core yet, in fact I don’t know if any of them would qualify, as lots of additional improvement is needed.  The one thing that did stick out to me was that in 2022, a couple guys you know and love will become free agents.  AND SO IT STARTS…..

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Yolmer Sanchez reaches Free Agency in 2022, so that leaves him 2019, 2020 and 2021 in Chicago, should the White Sox continue to retain him through arbitration raises and avoiding the urge to trade him.  Truth be told, when I saw the A’s trade for Jurickson Profar to play 2b for them this off-season, I immediately thought the White Sox probably could’ve turned Yolmer into the package that Profar was able to return.  Profar is clearly the better offensive player, but Yolmer is more durable and is a good defender.  To this point, Yolmer is still here and he’ll probably play okay, but other than this comparable situation, I haven’t really been thinking about Yolmer Sanchez nor am I really thinking about him here.  NO!  My focus is another young player that we’ve been waiting on to reach his massive upside, another player that becomes a free agent before the 2022 season.

Carlos Rodon

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It’s no secret that Rodon is the 900 lb Gorilla in the room when it comes to this rebuild.

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He hasn’t been good enough to really trade for something substantial and with the rebuild taking a step or half step back, it’s going to be very difficult for his team control to line up well with the rest of the core.  In theory you could TRY and extend him, but there is someone out there that probably won’t allow this to occur.

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You see, Carlos was a top 3 pick and has a great pedigree, but every time he gets a little momentum going, he either has an injury, control problems or suspect help behind the plate that causes inconsistency.  With a career ERA of 4.01, and an ERA+ of 102, he’s smack dab right there as a league average pitcher (his FIP trails slightly at 4.29, but it’s within shouting distance of his ERA to lead you to believe that his performance today is pretty much on par with the underlying peripherals).  There is nothing wrong with league average pitchers, its just that they don’t generate that much in trade value, especially when you have to pay closer and closer to fair value for them.  Carlos’ first arbitration season is 2019, so he’ll finally earn more than the league minimum by a fair amount (per MLB Trade Rumors he’s expected to net approximately $3.7M).

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Chorizy and I talked about his potential trade value right now.  I believe the White Sox and the larger trade market would like to see a full, healthy, above-average season out of the southpaw before they are willing to provide adequate value for him.  Chorizy on the other hand doesn’t think the White Sox would have to take that much of a discount on the deal that the Seattle Mariners received for James Paxton.  In my mind, that is too substantial a haul for Rodon right now, as I sit here sipping some Turley wine at my island in the kitchen.  However, I believe a 3.5 fWAR (in laymen’s terms basically a #2 starter or the White Sox defacto ace) or above season by Rodon would land him right smack dab in the middle of the sweet spot for maximizing his trade value.  He’d have 2 years of control heading into the 2020 season (just like Paxton did heading into this season), but he’d be 3 years younger (27, instead of Paxton’s 30).  Rodon also has a couple of other things going for him, errr, going for the White Sox that will allow them to trade him more easily.  This is not a pretty list.

  1. The White Sox have previously painted him as “lazy”, often blaming his injuries on conditioning or just an utter lack of exercising at all.  Leaving it easily interpreted by the common fan that he needs to “get more serious about taking care of his body”.  We here at the 108 resemble that remark.

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  1. The White Sox gave him Omar Narvaez as a battery mate last year and will likely give him one of their two current “bad framing, poor mostly everything to do with catching”, catchers, so as not to do him any favors at all when he is battling out there.  In other words, they’ve gone out of their way to make his job harder and to help along these inconsistencies that we are pointing out in the text above.

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  1. The construction of the White Sox team means that they’ll likely press him to pitch as many innings as possible, he won’t get the cush treatment that some starters get today, shortening up their outings to be more effective.  That’s tough to do when your bullpen is highly unproven and the rest of your starting staff is meh at best.  There will be a lot of stretched innings for ole Carlos.  No preferential treatment like other squads are doing to tighten up their top starters’ stat lines…no, no, he’ll be forced to stick it out like Clark Griswold’s family on Christmas Eve.

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If he somehow overcomes all of this shit to be the blue chip starter we have all dreamed of, maybe, just maybe the White Sox will turn him into the last great trade chip of the rebuild.  The last influx of young talent via trade that will create the future core.  And because of these obstacles, we won’t have the chubby we had for Chris Sale or Jose Quintana before they left.  We won’t have that sad feeling when he’s traded, we’ll have the feeling of a closer, and closers get coffee.

-BeefLoaf

#WhiteSox Poll Thoughts!?!

Good evening frenz, it’s your pal BeefLoaf.  I was just laying on the couch crushing Rolo’s when I figured I would hoist my ever bulging physique and knock out a little quickie for you.  I run > 90% of the 108 polls that you see obnoxiously retweeted into your feed, so I figured it might be worth getting into what I actually think when coming up with a poll for 108.

Before we get to the poll in question, a couple of general thoughts…when I’m putting together a poll I am usually trying to answer a question that either I have, or that I see bubbling up in the White Sox Twitterverse.  Sometimes, I am looking for what the group opinion is on something to determine how that syncs up with my own opinion or Chorizy’s or MSS’s.  Occasionally I just see an opportunity for lunacy and figure “Why Not??”  Let’s see what the fine folks of White Sox twitter come up with.  You rarely disappoint.  Now, on to this morning’s poll.

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In the most recent FromThe108 Podcast, we had segments on two guys who we believe the fan base tends to overvalue, Adam Engel (my belief) and Carson Fulmer (the subject of a Facebook argument involving MySoxSummer), so I wanted to see if what we were experiencing was really happening out there and if it was, then we could direct those folks to the new podcast and possibly find out why they be thinking things that is so far off what we believe.  I tossed in Gio because, for fucks sake he was horrible last year and desperately needs to improve.  He really has a lot of runway to get better.  As with all twitter polls, if you are asking a question with a wide band like this, you need to add an “Other” selection because Twitter only lets you get down with 4….thems the grits.

Let’s dig in on what I learned from the results.

Adam Engel 8%

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Well it was my segment in the podcast that brought up #EngelTruthers either all them mufuckaz were on vacation from twitter today, or they don’t believe old Adam needs to improve that much…..OR, I’m fucking delusional and there aren’t that many people that love Adam Engel.  I’d say it is probably the latter, sorry for that segment, I’m sure if you already have watched Adam Engel suck for the last 2 years you didn’t need to hear me read off how he is in the bottom 10% of centerfielders in basically all offensive categories.

Lucas Giolito 70%

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My guy Jordan Lazowski has been the most bullish motherfucker I know of about Gio.  I thought he was nuts and truth be told, I was pretty sure it was a gigantic troll job.  I mean, the kid sounds like he has a real major and he at least pretends to attend Notre Dame, so he can’t be that much of a dumbass.  Low and behold, if it was a bit, he’s going to have to search for a new one.  I didn’t realize this many folks were banking on Gio taking a big step.  I didn’t realize those 7 starts back in 2017 would create such an indelible bond.  Just like that summer fling you once had that still gives you tight pants all these years later, Gio is burned into White Sox twitters consciousness.

Carson Fulmer 9%

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Again, our segments are fucked.  Chorizy even did like 10 minutes on pitch selection that I sort of zoned out on as I watched “highlight films” of Jmac performing with future type 2 diabetics.  Anywho, even though it is bad for his health, I think Chorizy and I still want MySoxSummer hanging out at Facebook to bring these gems along because even if the twitter folks aren’t into it, it still entertains us.

 

Other 13% 

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A huge chunk of this 13% was voting for Yoan Moncada, even some folks who are very bright and who’s opinion I respect on baseball and other stuff, but if I am being honest with myself, picking Moncada for this spot is a Basic Bitch pick.  I hope all of you enjoyed your fucking Pumpkin Spice Latte’s while you punched this one in.

So there you have it a little inside look into what these polls are for and how we view them.  Now Imma go back and eat the rest of these Rolo.

-BeefLoaf